"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Flirting with girls who have boyfriends

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Let's say you meet a girl and when you ask for her number you get "I have a boyfriend." But you can tell she's attracted to you so you let that go and then get her number. There are things read between the lines, but to keep it short:

How sexually do you want to flirt with a girl who has a boyfriend? I have read that you want to be really sexual, but I have also read that you don't want to be sexual at all... like teasing and giving her a hard time are OK, but basically keep things fun and light. My plan so far has been to sort of escalate things slowly because in my mind this will make her more comfortable and then when I do ask her to come out with me, I'll be a little more explicit and start flirting through touch. Like the way I see it, I want her to sort of wonder where her and I stand. This is a learning experience for me since I've never really hit on a girl with a boyfriend before so I could be totally in the wrong.

Or would you start touching her and being sexual as soon as possible? This is a girl from a social circle, in this case, class.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Usually if she says IHAB when you ask for a number that means low interest.

I just hooked up with girl a few days ago that I KNEW had a boyfriend, but she never mentioned him. See the difference?
 

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How about flirting with a single girl so you can avoid this problem.

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That's not particularly helpful for him is it?
How is it not? A taken chick will only accept your advances if she is thinking of cheating on the boyfriend. You can flirt with a single chick and get laid the same night. You could be waiting a long time for the taken chick which is a waste of time.
 

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Montague_Leach said:
How about flirting with a single girl so you can avoid this problem.
That's not particularly helpful for him is it?

Besides have you ever met a 5 and up who was ever without some kind of male around? Whether it be borefriends/FB's/beta orbiters etc.

OP if I were you I'd listen to what Uncharted is telling you. bf is only mentioned if she suspects your a less enticing branch to swing to than what she already has. But if you feel you must continue with this then game her like you would any other girl.
 

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Her: I have a boyfriend.

You: That's great I have a girlfriend. We should hook them up. What did you say that number was?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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5string

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Age old question.

Why mess with a gal who has a BF when there are so many single girls out there?

Does not make sense.
 

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"I have a boyfriend" translated:

F off....I'm not interested.

She can have a husband, 2 FWB's, and a part time lesbian relationship....if she wants to bang you, she will without mention of any of her extra curricular activities.
 

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Agreed except for this situation (happened to me):

She leaves bar with me. Hooking up in the car. I start driving to my place. Kiss more in the car. She says "Just so you know I have a boyfriend." I say "OK", kiss her again, take her inside.


But yes, if you have not kissed or hooked up or anything and the IHAB excuse rolls out, you're fvcked.
 

BigSmooth

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Morals aside, one reason I TRY not to hook up with girls that are taken is because it's just a pain in the ass. You never know if that boyfriend is the insansely jealous, violent, revenge type of guy.

However, if the girl is obviously down for some of your D, and doesn't mention her boyfriend, go for it. Flirt with her like you would anyone else.
 
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