Flat-out lying

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One day, back in the total AFC days (now I'm just a self aware AFC who is working on it), I was watching Blind Date. There was this guy matched up with a pretty hot girl, and this guy just lied about everything all date. He was totally straightfaced and just flat out came up with the most absurd untrue thing to say without smiling or anything. Totally serious. By the time they were at dinner they were making out constantly and then she invites him into her apartment at the end.

Has anyone ever tried this? It's like totally deadpan F&C. I get the feeling this guy has developed his own strange technique, and it sure seemed to work. I guess you have to keep in mind that shows like that are unrealistic, but it was an interesting technique.

 

[drZaius09]

I don't see anything wrong with it. I sprinkle the same kind of bizarre behavior into my game once in a while. The point here is, if you are unique and show them something they've never seen before, it intrigues them. You don't necessarily have to lie about everything, just have a f#ckin personality, enjoy yourself, and try not to be a carbon copy of every other stiff she's ever interacted with.

For me, it is exponentially more important that I am laughing and having a good time, rather than whether she is. Women will usually react to this attitude very favorably due to their crippling insecurity.

 

[everywomanshero]

Lieing

I see some disadvantages of lieing. It's hard to keep lies straight if you change it up constantly. Have I lied with success? Yes. Have I had success without major lies. Yes. I'm really not sure if lieing helps or not at this point.

Has anyone kept track of lieing vs non-lieing to see which gets better results?

 

[JonJack]

Personally I don't practice lying unless it is to protect someone else. Lying to pick up a chick would depend a lot on what you seek from this particular girl. If you're looking for a ONS, lying is a good way of achieving your goal. If you desire something on a longer-term perspective, then lying is not a good tactical choice. But before you decide on anything, you should first decide on what you think of lying. It's like marriage. Think about before jumping into it, otherwise you might get seriosuly burned and you'll regret your actions. Luckily, the consequences of lying tend not to be too damaging. So you can always learn from mistakes.

 

[gimmeyofonenumba]

what exactly do you lie about? i just about never lie to anyone, unless its to save/protect someone. You mean like lie about the number of women uve been with?

 

[strong like bull]

i used to do this a couple years ago. it was mostly accidental. basically, i have a low, deep soothing voice. ive gotten better, but i used to talk very monotone. on top of that, its easy for me to keep a straight face. naturally my facial expressions are stoic; indifferent.

on top of that, back then, id say a LOT of crazy ****y&funny stuff. just outrageous things. if i was laughing and giggling about it, everybody would no i am trying to make a joke. but, because of how i naturally talk, all of my facial expressions show that im telling the truth. it actually got to a point where people couldnt tell whether i was joking or serious.

THAT, i did not like. even though it attracted a lot of the ONS/party-type girls, the same way any heavy c&f/neghit style would, i got tired of being the "joker." the girls that i REALLY were into, the wholesome type, wouldnt trust me. in their eyes, everything was a joke to me. people would laugh, but it wasnt worth it in the end.

for me at least, it wasnt LYING lying. it was always on the borderline. it was always something where the girl could see it being true, but didnt know for sure. that intrigued them.

for instance, a girl asks what you do for a living... instead of telling her that youre a waiter at TGIFRIDAYS, tell her in the most honest, trustworthy face that youre a male escort. say something fun. theyll get a kick, and you can play off it. e.g. if she says "NO WAY!"

if youre a handsome, well built guy, and you know she digs ya, come back at her with "what? you dont think i have what it takes to be a male escort? ill have you know..."

see where it goes?

my lesson was to learn that moderation is key. always joke around in front of others, and thats what youll be... a joke.

-SLB

 

[PRMoon]

Important to remember that this was a TV show you were watching. When the lights go off she's goin back to [insert stat here] while he's staying in/or going back to [insert some state half way or mor across the country and/or country outside the C48]. Meaning even if they happen to make one phone call to one another, they probably won't have all that much contact with another afterwards.

That's really no different then you being on vacation with camearas where you can lie till her pants come off and not worry too much about the conciquences. Heck you can even do this in your own town if you want to living in a well populated area. But if you're lookig for some one who you're going to be seeing for sometime then flat out lying about everything may not be the way to go. Concider a standard amount of deception, only enough to get you around some of those rough areas of conversations and backround check aight son?

 

[MacDiddy]

From Kings to Queens, rich and poor, religious and non-believers... Not everyone has been totally honest during any form of courtship...

There is no morality to debate here.... Just get on with the actual pickup!!! This ain't a perfect world....

So you lied about your job etc..... most chicks who love you will forgive you... they're not poerfect themselves...