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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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flaking on a girl who had high interest but now has low interest?

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if i tried to date close a girl who wouldn't give me a time, then finally get her to commit to a time but smell she might flake again.. does it make no difference if i flake on her before she does on me?

i imagine i'd be doing her a favor by cancelling or would this still affect her in some way that no guy has cancelled on her before?

if i cancel before we even have a 1st date is this going to be counterproductive?

she had high interest intially but now its low/lower so i imagine she wouldn't want to see me now anyway.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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time factor and how well you built rapport determines cohension and reduces flake percentage.

active disinterest principle requires INTIAL INTEREST in order to reap results.
 

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COD said:
time factor and how well you built rapport determines cohension and reduces flake percentage.

active disinterest principle requires INTIAL INTEREST in order to reap results.
see this is the thing.. i'll seem to create high interest initially, make the laugh be ****y and funny, neg her a little then i go for the number close. she seems all for it cos interest is there.

then if i go for the date close straight after and she wont commit to a time i keep pressing her cos i feel she's misbehaving or being a spoilt little girl.

if she feels i'm overpursuing, i obviously should back off.. the problem is that if you ignore her as you walk by her i.e. if u see her nearly every day in the same building when changing classes etc and just blank her as if she does not exist.. does she not think 'he's angry cos i didn't commit to a time'?

i read showing any emotion, anger disapproval etc will satisfy her thought process that she could have u and u were bitter.

i always find it near impossible to get them interested again after i come across as a little too pushy with a date close time.. if i ignore her and dont even say hi the next few times i see her would that work for or against me and why?
 

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AGAINST YOU..........are you 12, pouting, being bitter this is what SUPER NANNY DEALS WITH.........little kids.............waaaaaaaa she didnt commit to a date right then and there........waaaaaaaa so i am going to avoid her.

IF SHE GAVE u a number, then call her up and set something up. Going on an instant date or making plans right then and there.......SCREAMS WUSS BEHAVIOR.

people dont know their schedule in advance, things pop up from time to time. Being too eagar never works in your favor............

WHAT TO DO-----"ya thanks, I might call you some time and MAYBE we could go for drinks.

You are forcing the issue and putting them on the spot right there, that whole alpha male comes across as controlling then U want to punish her for being human by ignorring her..........DUDE you are not really into how attraction works are you.

hmmm I think I wrote an article a while back on NEGOCIATING AND PERSUATION---how to get what you want. Silent treatment is a last resort and very few women respond positively to it.
 

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COD said:
AGAINST YOU..........are you 12, pouting, being bitter this is what SUPER NANNY DEALS WITH.........little kids.............waaaaaaaa she didnt commit to a date right then and there........waaaaaaaa so i am going to avoid her.

IF SHE GAVE u a number, then call her up and set something up. Going on an instant date or making plans right then and there.......SCREAMS WUSS BEHAVIOR.

people dont know their schedule in advance, things pop up from time to time. Being too eagar never works in your favor............

WHAT TO DO-----"ya thanks, I might call you some time and MAYBE we could go for drinks.

You are forcing the issue and putting them on the spot right there, that whole alpha male comes across as controlling then U want to punish her for being human by ignorring her..........DUDE you are not really into how attraction works are you.

hmmm I think I wrote an article a while back on NEGOCIATING AND PERSUATION---how to get what you want. Silent treatment is a last resort and very few women respond positively to it.

where is the article?
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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flaking on a girl early on can communicate non desperateness (a trait girls like) if you call her early on that day and give her a good reason.
 

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Probably one of the more useful tips I learned from Asian Playboy is to actually have a pretty weak phone close tactic. I used to get a LOT OF flakes in my phone and the reason for it was because I wasn't building enough comfort.

For the longest time, I thought I was asking for the number incorrectly and that most definitely was NOT the case, the problem was my game.

"The Game is won in comfort" -Asian Playboy

I didn't have enough comfort with her and as a result of it, she would flake on me.

So what you need to do is take a step back and really analyze what went wrong in your set. What I would do is make a post of how your set went, and let people pick apart your game.

A lot of comfort is done with story telling, master this, and you've mastered a giant component of the game. APB had a interesting piece on story telling I found pivotal in my comfort game.

http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2005/06/importance-of-vulnerability-story.html
 

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Probably one of the more useful tips I learned from Asian Playboy is to actually have a pretty weak phone close tactic. I used to get a LOT OF flakes in my phone and the reason for it was because I wasn't building enough comfort.

For the longest time, I thought I was asking for the number incorrectly and that most definitely was NOT the case, the problem was my game.

"The Game is won in comfort" -Asian Playboy

I didn't have enough comfort with her and as a result of it, she would flake on me.

So what you need to do is take a step back and really analyze what went wrong in your set. What I would do is make a post of how your set went, and let people pick apart your game.

A lot of comfort is done with story telling, master this, and you've mastered a giant component of the game. APB had a interesting piece on story telling I found pivotal in my comfort game.

http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2005/06/importance-of-vulnerability-story.html

Hope this helps, and shoot me a PM if you have any more detailed questions.

-Kevin
 
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