"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Flaked but sounds interested. What do you do?

t510

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Hi
I met a girl and she committed to going out Saturday. It was supposed to be at 9. I texted her at 7 and again at 8 and she didn't respond so I left. She texted back at 9:15 saying her thing ran late and to text her now but I told her I already left. She asked to get together today. I didn't commit.
So today I wrote her in the afternoon and she wrote back after work saying she was so tired and had to pick her friend up at the airport.
I said ok, that's fine. Hopefully we can get together another time. She wrote back late saying She's sorry she had to sleep...

Should I ask her out again. She didn't even mention rescheduling... Too bad.
Any advice?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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GreatHornedOwl

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Jesus. You've been here 2 years and you're clueless.

I'm sorry dude, but c'mon. Where is your common sense?
 

Skyline

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I had a few girls do this to me actually, i asked once they made up an excuse. I ask again in 1-2 weeks later and i get the same answer. I then deleted their number(s) and moved on. That behavior is beneath me and should be beneath you too.

Go Ghost and talk to other girls.
 

t510

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So there zero point zero chance of getting a date with this girl?
 

TheRosyCrucifixion

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I think there's a point where you need to have some self-respect man. If she really wants to meet and **** she's gonna be more receptive. One thing I've learned from all these sites and then putting it into work is that I was caring waaaay too much about these girls thinkin one would never come again.

you gotta instill in your mind that she doesn't matter, cuz another one will always come, they will.

I don't wanna sound like some preachy ******* cuz I don't know ****, but part of my beginning success i've noticed came from a different mentality. I can ride the metro alone, all serene with a ****ing smile on my face. Send a stupid text to one of these floosies, and see if anything happens. ****, some of the fun is seeing the reactions and ****. Once I stopped caring I started making progress.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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joker79

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would you flake on a girl you're interested in? flaky behaviour and interest are antonyms
 

Maximus Rex

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By default, her lack of an answer is her ANSWER.
 

Greasy Pig

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It's amazing how often I've read threads on here about flakes and it's because the chick has to pick someone up from the airport.
Is it the universal female "catch all" excuse?
Fvck this bytch. She lost her chance with you and will have to work extra hard to win you over. Go ghost.
 

sylvester the cat

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In my experience, One-itis is usually about one-upmanship, saving face, getting your own back, trying to claw back some dignity you once used to have.

Some you win, some you lose. This one is a lost cause. Let it go, before you do your dignity any more harm.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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PlayHer Man

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I agree with Danger and Greasy Pig.

She is both full of sh!t and not very interested. You, on the other hand, are WAY TOO INTERESTED. What has this b!tch done to make your interest so high besides looking good? She sure as hell isn't treating you like you're even remotely important. :crackup:

REMEMBER --> The minute you care more than the girl is the minute you lose the game.

I can't stress that enough. The woman MUST care more. So you need to either raise your value as Danger pointed out OR find a way to stop giving a sh!t. :up:
 
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