Iceberg said:
Let's say you meet a girl ONCE in December and get her number. Do you really think she's gonna go out on a first date with you in February?
You'd both have to be pretty undesirable to have not found any better options in two months. I don't know about about you, but I don't hear a lot of my friends say, "Yeah, I'm going out in my first date with this girl I met three months ago."
Because I'm a very argumentative and persistent person, I'm going to keep responding haha...
To answer your question, "Do you really think she's gonna go out on a first date with you in February," my answer is yes. Why?
1) You're assuming that both parties have been single for that entire 3-month period. When I have a girlfriend, I will still obtain other women's phone numbers to form friendships or to have potential back-ups if my LTR ends. When I don't have a girlfriend, I will STILL obtain women's phone numbers to form friendships or to have a potential f*ck buddy or LTR.
Conversely, if I find a woman attractive, I try to get her phone number... regardless of whether or not she is temporarily "taken" (by "taken" I'm referring to unmarried women in LTRs... I personally don't support guys going after married women, but I won't judge those that do). Frequently, since many women ALSO like to make friends or have potential back-ups, they will willfully give me their phone number.
Often times, these relationships (*gasp*) end within a few months. Using the method I originally posted, I have achieved a staggering number of successes... I once even incidentally called a girl (who I hadn't successfully met up with 3 times prior) a mere 2 hours after she broke up with her boyfriend. It was an easy rebound and f-close on a chick who, had I "nexted" her, I likely would never have seen again. Instead, she's been a regular f*ck buddy of mine (and only because I don't want an LTR with her) for the past 7 months... once I was able to finally meet up with her, I got her hooked.
2) You probably never hear your friends say anything like "yeah, I'm going out in my first date with this girl I met three months ago" because, like you, their emotional sensitivity (no offense intended... that's just how I perceive your claim that pride has anything to do with this) prevents them from continuing an incredibly casual pursuit. TWO chances and that's it, goodbye forever? People travel, have deaths in their families, friendship/relationship drama, too much work, financial troubles, health problems, are legitimately tired on any given day, and so on. Sometimes they don't feel like seeing someone they barely know for coffee when there are more pressing matters they would prefer to deal with.
Since you barely know this person, you have no idea what may be preventing them from seeing you. There are 1000 possible reasons for not being able to (or not wanting to) meet up. If they haven't blatantly rejected you or told you to f*ck off, to assume that it's some sort of blow to your precious ego is misguided and, to me, shows a certain level of insecurity. IF I'm still interested in a girl (and I can't emphasize that point enough), I'm going to continue to casually pursue any girl I want until **I** am no longer interested. If she doesn't explicitly tell me to stop calling her (and NO ONE ever has... afterall, we're talking about one phone call every 1 or 2 months here), I won't stop until my own interest level in HER falters.
3) "You'd both have to be pretty undesirable to have not found any better options in two months." Even if both parties are single the entire time, I have to disagree yet again. For starters, if SHE wasn't desirable, why would you be trying to pursue her in the first place? If YOU weren't desirable, how would you have gotten her number? Sh*t, even if I were undesirable I'd still look you dead in the eyes and tell you I'm the most desirable guy walking this planet, and I'd make sure you believed it.
Keep in mind, persistence is a virtue, and it is valued. Even when girls meet complete creeps that call them 20 times per day for a month, they'll still say "well at least he's persistent." Why? Persistence--when coupled with social skills and a calm, cool attitude--shows confidence. Confidence is ALWAYS attractive to women... I have yet to meet a girl who's been turned off by a man's confidence.
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And although I wasn't originally going to comment on this, I might as well since I've gone off on an essay here...
"And using Facebook to make a woman horny? I'd rather jump in front of a bus."
Would you rather jump in front of a bus if I were to suggest that you should view a bunch of internet discussion board posts in order to seduce women more effectively? I actually know people who would look down upon you and I for posting these very messages, dismissing them based on their misplaced values. Hell, I'll admit it, I myself have been guilty of this mindset... I often look down upon people who first meet girls on the internet and then meet them in real life.
However, if it gets results it gets results, and I cannot deny that no matter what my personal biases may be. I know people who have married people they've met on the internet, and have had very successful marriages... although I'm still biased, I can't deny that it worked for them... just like this website has (hopefully) worked for you and I in improving our game, and how facebook chat has helped me increase the interest levels of the females I've met.
You can make a woman horny from mere foreplay. Or by talking to them in a certain way, in-person or over the phone. Or even by text in a cell phone or computer. The means of communication should not be discounted if they can enhance your results. Sometimes the ends justify the means.
That being said, this is why I normally lurk on this site rather than post... this response was way longer than I originally intended it to be. Guess I'm too persistent for my own good...
