"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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flake flake flake flake WHY??

spang

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me and this girl had plans but she didnt even show up. didnt call to cancel, no text. seriously what kind of heartless, unkind, selfish, rotten person does that? what kind of vile evil creature does these things?
i texted 2 other girls and no response at all.
the biatch didnt show up so i went back to campus at like 8pm(on a fvckin friday night) to get some hw done. im sitting in a computer lab and this chick is one row down from me. i asked her a simple question about homework...she looked right at me and deliberately fvckin ignored me. i asked again nicely, she looked right at me and ignored me. seriously what THE FVCK??? at that point i grabbed my stuff, shaking my head, kicked a chair and stormed out of the lab.
i couldnt help it. i got so mad on the way home i had to pull over and calm down. i dont deserve this crap.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Did you text her to confirm your plans? I would always do that, you usually do it with your guy friends right? So women shouldn't be an exception. Sometimes I don't do this if I'm going to see the girl in person the day-of (like on campus), but for the most part, you need to confirm. It can save you some time. And if she ignores the text, you still win because now you know she wasn't interested. Admittedly I was hesitant to try and confirm plans with women (stupid, right?) because I'd be afraid they'd just ignore my text or whatever. That's so lame. You honestly cannot lose with women, either she is responsive and actually hangs out (which is a win) or she doesn't do anything and you gain more insight and can move on (also a win).

Anyway, in my experience, college women flake. It happens. There are different levels of flakiness, and if they actually let you know ahead of time that they're "busy" or they can't commit to something, it's no big deal... just say OK and try again in a few days. I feel that if a woman does have some interest, and they know you won't be an orbiter because you don't act lame, they will actually text you in a timely and respectable fashion if they can't make a date or something. I don't believe in "counter-offers" as a sign of interest because a.) when I cancel plans with my best friends I do not immediately counter-offer, and b.) I've had women flake, counter-offer, then flake again. Christ.

If they straight up ignore you, over text, face-to-face, etc, just say "**** em" and move on. This girl ignoring you in person means she was probably never attracted to begin with or for whatever reason just doesn't like you. Think about it. Regardless, she still lacks empathy and manners so she isn't worth **** anyway. She sounds incredibly immature and I think you came out the winner here. I would recommend trying to keep your cool a bit more. Saying stupid crap (or doing stupid crap, like kicking things) with a pushy/needy/angry tone will get you nowhere. It's costed me dates before, it's best to just say "OK" and walk away.
 

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yes i did text her wednesday and confirmed it. she said she would be there. this girl isnt even from my campus. shes 27 i would expect a little better than that but i guess i was wrong.
as far as the girl in the lab, i really didnt have the intention of flirting, i really needed help with my work. if youre so arrogant you cant even have a conversation with someone, youre not worth your salt.
it was just too much for one day.
 

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One: Do not ever ever ever get angry with a woman or show her that you are getting angry because of her, it will never work out for you.

Two: As far as the flakiness, yeah, it happens. I really hate to ask this but: Are you attractive? Some girls will only actually be serious if she found you attractive. Of course there are exceptions, but take time to go to the gym and get buff. We as humans are naturally shallow, if you see some land whale next to a HB 8.5, who are you going to be looking at 95% of the time? Don't get mad at this, just adapt.

Three: The girl in the lab was a b!tch, now I am the kind of guy who if I run into some b!tch like that, I am going to knock her off that self-made pedestal of hers. I would have gotten her attention, and I mean REALLY gotten her attention by standing squarely in front of her or saying "Excuse me." in a firm voice with one hand on her shoulder. I would then ask her the question. The thing is that I'm showing her that I will get what I want, but I'm not going to fit in her expectation of hitting on her because she assumes every guy wants to. But that's just me.
 

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Most women of today as soon as they sense they can have you they lose interest.. Well then again she has another 100 options so it's doubtful she had interest to begin with.

Bro don't worry I spend my day playing computer games and jogging. Its Not worth putting myself through this sh!t anymore.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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SamTheHobit said:
Most women of today as soon as they sense they can have you they lose interest.. Well then again she has another 100 options so it's doubtful she had interest to begin with.

Bro don't worry I spend my day playing computer games and jogging. Its Not worth putting myself through this sh!t anymore.
the funny part about this is theyll try to get it out of you too. "Ohhh do you like me? " "Oh so you like me huh". Etc. And then once they do your fvcked. Its a sick little game.

And you said what kind of rotten, no good person ... lol your dealing with women mate .... better get used to it. If you went for women who already had high IL then this wouldnt be an issue. Its pretty easy to sense low IL, once you get enough experience. Take a look at Anti Dumps Machine in the DJ Bible at the bottom.

Good luck SPANGGG

EDIT- damn Sam thats rough. I think the problem is your LOOKING for women . Why not when you go out have a good time and let them come to you or look for their signs of interest in you and go talk to them. Its not supposed to be painful like pulling teeth getting women should be fun and exciting . Make it fun and exciting but if its not your thing then dont force yourself to do it. You wouldnt force yourself to jump off a bridge with no parachute would you?

Bottom line : if you make it fun, you will get any girl. IF you make it like pulling teeth you show some really bad vibes and then you get your flake.
 
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