"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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milesman

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Hey guys I don't know about you, but I've lately become attracted to women with strong musculature. No not manly arms and calves, but a defined, strong back, strong legs and a nice full butt. It's gotten to the point where this is all I can go for! There are some female trainers at my gym that are very feminine and JACKED. And I'd beat the breaks off of any one of them in a minute. It seems a birds-of-a-feather type of deal because my DJ sense tells me that it's mutual. I do notice that they tend to have have some minor jock-type tendencies in them but I'm curious if you guys have had experiences with them. I would imagine it'd be a romp in the bedroom and during the week you all can keep each other motivated. Plus, physical aside, there is something very attractive about someone else who shows discipline and accountability. Thoughts?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Drum&Bass

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I'm curious if you guys have had experiences with them. I would imagine it'd be a romp in the bedroom and during the week you all can keep each other motivated. Plus, physical aside, there is something very attractive about someone else who shows discipline and accountability. Thoughts?
I train my girl friend, and she's gotten pretty muscular. 5'6 135 (hour glass)

225 deadlift
175 squat
125 bench

Right now she's getting ready to compete in a triathlon.


All the things you described as being attractive in fit women are true. Gotta disagree with your opinion about muscular arms and calves though. Chicks gotta have strong arms if there gonna have a strong back, and calves are hot they make a womans leg look balanced.

Gotta be complete for me. especially since i make a living correcting/fixing and coaching.

and yea the sex is good, really, really.....really......really effing good/great/phenomenal.
:cheer:
 

milesman

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I said I'd pass on "manly", not muscular arms/legs. And yes, I love to see a woman put up some weight. Btw, I'm outside of Decatur and train at Northlake LA Fitness, you?
 

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haha sick, im at perimeter point (sandy springs) la fitness
 

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Oh gosh man,been there done that.

At the end of the day,there no different then any other chick. Being a freak in bed is entirely on the women and how much they like you,imho.

I went out with one of 24 Hours top sales(wo)men for 6 months....sex was okay at best. ex-gymnist, semi health nut and workouted for a hour a day,so she was in good shape.

Now I'm just going out with my neighbor and sex is ten times better,twice as long as twice as often. She's not in as good shape,but not anything I hide from anyone.

Go figure.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I love a chick who stays in shape, but a lot of times the ones who are obsessed with training are compensating for something. I hear a lot of them are sex freaks.

Personally I like the more soft, feminine girls with robust natural boobs. Being hard and strong is my job!!
 

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I keep threatening to join the yoga-pilates-spin classes, just to meet fitness babes. At least there won't be the issue with fat chicks like I see everywhere else. Actually, I could benefit from this, regardless! Finances are a little iffy now, so I'm holding off on the membership cost.
How many guys get laid from yoga pickups?
I mentioned it in passing to one guy in my work, and he lit up. It was awesome, especially with the married instructor he shagged. The guy is an animal, btw.
 

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Staying motivated can be difficult. Visualizing success is often a great way to start. There is no magic formula...but once you start making this a lifestyle change, and not just a "diet" you'll feel so much better! Drink lots of water, choose healthy foods, and get moving either walking or going to the gym, or playing with your kids. It all adds up in a good way!
 

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Getting a fitness chick has been one of my goals for a while I must admit. Depends largely where you train of course. I do Bodypump and am surrounded by women, I see the occaissional women that has the workout look. Not overly fussed on female bodybuilders who get all chunked up in the off season. Athletic/Muscular women with definition are what I like, very often they are older as well, a women in her mid 40s introduced herself to me in a class and she had an amazing body.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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