"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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First step towards RAFC - Advice?

battlefield

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I've known this girl for awhile. We share the same circle of friends but we were on opposite sides of the spectrum of our group so we never really got to know each other. Sometimes we'll chat and she's always receptive and I can make her laugh. Lately she's been IMing and texting me about what she's doing, asking me if I'm going. So far I've had other plans that got in the way.

A little background on me - 19 year old virgin. Had one girlfriend in high school that I dated for about 4 months before she dumped me because I was a vag. I feel kind of awkward around girls. I never know what to say. My conversational skills are really lacking but I'm getting better. I have a problem where I get kind of weird once a girl starts showing signs of attraction. I figure I can fix this by going outside of my comfort zone by showing affection. I am good looking, 5'10, in good shape, passive personality. Halfway through the DJ Bible.

So I get this text from her on Wednesday around 8:30pm.

Her: Hey there's a social on the 16. Coming?
Me: Is it in [city]?
Her: Ya. ______ has tickets
Me: A social sounds good but I dunno for sure
Her: Well it should be good

Is there an opening here? I feel that she left the ball (am I imagining the ball?) in my court and when that happens you have to make a play, right?

I think what I should do is call her (avoid text and IM) and say: "Hey ______ it's _______. [insert opener here]" then chat her up for about 1-2 minutes before turning the conversation to the social then being like: "so I wanted to ask you if you could grab some tickets for me and [my friend]" and then from there set up something where we could meet and go together within a small group.

A few questions -
What should I do if I get her voicemail?
How long should I wait to call? She texted me on Wednesday so I'm thinking Monday or Tuesday of the following week.
Things to say/not say
Anything else...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Gamble

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if you're conversation skills are lacking, when and if you get her voicemail, make sure you talk in a calm, slow, and friendly tone of voice, kind of like you don't give a F*ck but you are down to have fun tone of voice. And if she picks up the phone do what you said and tell her "I wanted to know if you can grab some times for me and my friend and if you want to join us in my group." Simple. said. Done.
 
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