i just entered my first relationship. i have been calling her every night, but I don't think this is a good thing. We usually talk for 2 hours and sometimes it seems like the convo just keeps dragging on. I probably sound really boring and can't come up with that much stuff to say sometimes. So, How often should I be calling her?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
first relationship
- Thread starter DrD77
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
When ever you feel like it. Just because you're in a relationship doesnt mean you hand over your balls. Live your life, care for your girl and dont let her get in your way of progressing.
WC2
Master Don Juan
Finally some REAL advice, not just advice based on what others say on the forum.Charm&Style said:
thechallenger
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its already over bro
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I wasted a lot of time on my GF in highschool... spent hours on the phone every night for a good year... and prior to that I spent a lot of time over at her house before we started dating. I ignored a plethora of girls that were giving me signals just so I could get this one girl into bed. I regret having wasted all that energy (like 5 years) on one girl. The other ones eventually got into serious relationships or got married off, including that girl I persued (though I'm still glad I at least boinked her 
) and I am the only one who ended up feeling like a fool. It took me a few years to regain my composure, but it did give me a chance to find out who I am... but I digress.
This one you are seeing, may be a great girl, and it could go the distance... who knows. But I'll say this with my limited skills, don't be that guy... at the very least let her be the one to call, and try not to talk for too long or too often... you will regret wasting the time if it goes south.
) and I am the only one who ended up feeling like a fool. It took me a few years to regain my composure, but it did give me a chance to find out who I am... but I digress.This one you are seeing, may be a great girl, and it could go the distance... who knows. But I'll say this with my limited skills, don't be that guy... at the very least let her be the one to call, and try not to talk for too long or too often... you will regret wasting the time if it goes south.
WTF??
sometimes i really wonder if some people on here actually get girls based on the advice they give
what possible "value' can come from not talking on the phone too long, ignoring them, and acting like you have better things to do?
we can worry about that when girls start saying "he talked to me on the phone sooo long, i want a man who will only use it to make dates with me"
sounds like she'd then start looking for someone who can spend more time with her.
sometimes i really wonder if some people on here actually get girls based on the advice they give
what possible "value' can come from not talking on the phone too long, ignoring them, and acting like you have better things to do?
we can worry about that when girls start saying "he talked to me on the phone sooo long, i want a man who will only use it to make dates with me"
sounds like she'd then start looking for someone who can spend more time with her.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.