i just entered my first relationship. i have been calling her every night, but I don't think this is a good thing. We usually talk for 2 hours and sometimes it seems like the convo just keeps dragging on. I probably sound really boring and can't come up with that much stuff to say sometimes. So, How often should I be calling her?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
first relationship
- Thread starter DrD77
- Start date
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
When ever you feel like it. Just because you're in a relationship doesnt mean you hand over your balls. Live your life, care for your girl and dont let her get in your way of progressing.
WC2
Master Don Juan
Finally some REAL advice, not just advice based on what others say on the forum.Charm&Style said:
thechallenger
Don Juan
- Joined
- Sep 8, 2008
- Messages
- 80
- Reaction score
- 2
its already over bro
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I wasted a lot of time on my GF in highschool... spent hours on the phone every night for a good year... and prior to that I spent a lot of time over at her house before we started dating. I ignored a plethora of girls that were giving me signals just so I could get this one girl into bed. I regret having wasted all that energy (like 5 years) on one girl. The other ones eventually got into serious relationships or got married off, including that girl I persued (though I'm still glad I at least boinked her 
) and I am the only one who ended up feeling like a fool. It took me a few years to regain my composure, but it did give me a chance to find out who I am... but I digress.
This one you are seeing, may be a great girl, and it could go the distance... who knows. But I'll say this with my limited skills, don't be that guy... at the very least let her be the one to call, and try not to talk for too long or too often... you will regret wasting the time if it goes south.
) and I am the only one who ended up feeling like a fool. It took me a few years to regain my composure, but it did give me a chance to find out who I am... but I digress.This one you are seeing, may be a great girl, and it could go the distance... who knows. But I'll say this with my limited skills, don't be that guy... at the very least let her be the one to call, and try not to talk for too long or too often... you will regret wasting the time if it goes south.
WTF??
sometimes i really wonder if some people on here actually get girls based on the advice they give
what possible "value' can come from not talking on the phone too long, ignoring them, and acting like you have better things to do?
we can worry about that when girls start saying "he talked to me on the phone sooo long, i want a man who will only use it to make dates with me"
sounds like she'd then start looking for someone who can spend more time with her.
sometimes i really wonder if some people on here actually get girls based on the advice they give
what possible "value' can come from not talking on the phone too long, ignoring them, and acting like you have better things to do?
we can worry about that when girls start saying "he talked to me on the phone sooo long, i want a man who will only use it to make dates with me"
sounds like she'd then start looking for someone who can spend more time with her.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.