Hey everyone. This is my first post in any forum related to seducation/pickup. I’m not sure how long I should make this post, but I thought why not show as much as I can, and see how it goes.
Over the last 2 weeks ive been getting interested in pickup technique, but more importantly than that, about making myself feel comfortable around women. I find this stuff pretty fascinating, but im determined to not compensate for my frustration by becoming obsessed with methods and routines, but rather shift my persona and attitude. Some of the stuff I’ve read is just plain freaky, I think that if I got too involved with some of it I could become pretty disillusioned.
I would say that I have reasonable looks, but im incredibly prone to sabotaging myself, perhaps because im too open about my thoughts (but not necessarily about the person im trying to pickup). That’s my guess anyway. I think I find it impossible to approach a stranger and speak to her, but if can get to that next level and find a few connections conversation flow is fairly easy. Because I probably don’t behave in a very sexual manner, girls will talk to me without feeling too self conscious about me picking them up, but that seems to be exactly the problem because I cant get them to start to think sexually about me. Changing my mode to one of flirtation/seduction makes me feel very self conscious and unnatural.
Which brings me to my current situation with a girl which I would love to be with but im pretty sure she isn’t giving me the right IOI’s. I have 1 week before I leave the country and if I don’t try its gonna hurt.
I met her about 2 weeks ago, she’s from the UK and backpacking in Australia. I spoke to her on two occasions at reasonable length over the last few weeks. She is flirty, but not with me, even though she gets along well with me. she is also about to leave and meeting up while traveling will happen for a bit though I know she is also meeting up with another guy for a fling. She is very hot- about an 8 or 9 on my scale and 18yo. Im 22, but she is sexually confident and I could say a social star.
Anyway last week she said she wanted to go on a road trip to see some of the awesome sites in our state. I said I’d be keen to check it out and do some photography and maybe I’d end up driving soon before I went traveling so maybe she could join me. Initially I said I was going with others, and I SMSed her later that week to see if she was up for it. She was keen and we ended up organizing a two day trip staying in a motel halfway, but because of her work, we left an extra day early and my other mate couldn’t come (convenient).
Now I know your probably all thinking, my god how the hell could he not get it to work with such promising circumstances right? Despite this, I know that she and any other backpacker for that matter would jump at the chance to go for a road trip to the places that we went to. I also know of one other case where a guy did the exact same thing with another backpacker, and tried to kiss her but to no avail.
Being hot, I negged her quite a bit over the long drive and got reasonable responses. But whenever I’d go for short Kino over the two days I would never get a favourable response back. She wouldn’t necessarily move away, but theres was no way I could touch her for a long period of time without her pulling away. As we drove on we learnt a hell of a lot about each other, I used to be good at cold reading a few years ago (not for the sake of pickup but because it interested me to see how you could convince a person that you had a deeper understanding without knowing them). So yeah I did a reading on her and she was fairly impressed. She sees me as an intellectual, possibly not a sexual being.
I probably also ****ed up terribly by giving her the number of my mate who I perceived that she was interested in. that’s some terrible self sabotage there hey. I guess I thought by doing that I was convincing her that she wouldn’t have a chance with me, or trying to add a bit of ambiguity over my want for her.
but im 100% sure in her mind throughout this trip she sees me as a friend. Not good enough. So I’m hoping I can discuss with some of you this post, me, and how can I change her perception of me to one that is sexual now…or is it too late (no way)?
Over the last 2 weeks ive been getting interested in pickup technique, but more importantly than that, about making myself feel comfortable around women. I find this stuff pretty fascinating, but im determined to not compensate for my frustration by becoming obsessed with methods and routines, but rather shift my persona and attitude. Some of the stuff I’ve read is just plain freaky, I think that if I got too involved with some of it I could become pretty disillusioned.
I would say that I have reasonable looks, but im incredibly prone to sabotaging myself, perhaps because im too open about my thoughts (but not necessarily about the person im trying to pickup). That’s my guess anyway. I think I find it impossible to approach a stranger and speak to her, but if can get to that next level and find a few connections conversation flow is fairly easy. Because I probably don’t behave in a very sexual manner, girls will talk to me without feeling too self conscious about me picking them up, but that seems to be exactly the problem because I cant get them to start to think sexually about me. Changing my mode to one of flirtation/seduction makes me feel very self conscious and unnatural.
Which brings me to my current situation with a girl which I would love to be with but im pretty sure she isn’t giving me the right IOI’s. I have 1 week before I leave the country and if I don’t try its gonna hurt.
I met her about 2 weeks ago, she’s from the UK and backpacking in Australia. I spoke to her on two occasions at reasonable length over the last few weeks. She is flirty, but not with me, even though she gets along well with me. she is also about to leave and meeting up while traveling will happen for a bit though I know she is also meeting up with another guy for a fling. She is very hot- about an 8 or 9 on my scale and 18yo. Im 22, but she is sexually confident and I could say a social star.
Anyway last week she said she wanted to go on a road trip to see some of the awesome sites in our state. I said I’d be keen to check it out and do some photography and maybe I’d end up driving soon before I went traveling so maybe she could join me. Initially I said I was going with others, and I SMSed her later that week to see if she was up for it. She was keen and we ended up organizing a two day trip staying in a motel halfway, but because of her work, we left an extra day early and my other mate couldn’t come (convenient).
Now I know your probably all thinking, my god how the hell could he not get it to work with such promising circumstances right? Despite this, I know that she and any other backpacker for that matter would jump at the chance to go for a road trip to the places that we went to. I also know of one other case where a guy did the exact same thing with another backpacker, and tried to kiss her but to no avail.
Being hot, I negged her quite a bit over the long drive and got reasonable responses. But whenever I’d go for short Kino over the two days I would never get a favourable response back. She wouldn’t necessarily move away, but theres was no way I could touch her for a long period of time without her pulling away. As we drove on we learnt a hell of a lot about each other, I used to be good at cold reading a few years ago (not for the sake of pickup but because it interested me to see how you could convince a person that you had a deeper understanding without knowing them). So yeah I did a reading on her and she was fairly impressed. She sees me as an intellectual, possibly not a sexual being.
I probably also ****ed up terribly by giving her the number of my mate who I perceived that she was interested in. that’s some terrible self sabotage there hey. I guess I thought by doing that I was convincing her that she wouldn’t have a chance with me, or trying to add a bit of ambiguity over my want for her.
but im 100% sure in her mind throughout this trip she sees me as a friend. Not good enough. So I’m hoping I can discuss with some of you this post, me, and how can I change her perception of me to one that is sexual now…or is it too late (no way)?