"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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First post since 2008 and need solid advice

Cougar10033

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I joined this forum in 2005 and cannot believe it is 10 years later. I applied a lot of these techniques and improved my life dramatically.

I am currently engaged and been with this girl for over 8 years. Things have slowly gone down hill to the point where I am at the breaking point.

I am not happy with how I let things get but we almost never have sex and it seems like we are just roommates. She has no plans for the future and just seems content sitting on the couch and doing nothing with her life.

A few weeks ago while she was away on business I went out with my best friend for some drinks. I met a girl I had not seen since about 2005. She is a 10... makes insane money, great body, very motivated, was a division 1 athlete. We hit it off pretty well. She was with her friend and we ended up staying at her friends beach house. Since then we have been in contact non stop. She is in the same boat with her marriage. Non existent sex life, not happy with the way things are going so she laid it out to her husband months ago and things did not change.

She proposed that we meet up this weekend. I am torn on what to do and probably could use some of your advice since I am so wrapped up in this. She pretty much laid it out that we would be spending the night having sex.

I am honestly miserable in my situation but for some reason am honestly afraid to hurt my fiance. I also do not want to blow this and on my death bed say WOW I wonder what would have happened had I taken her up on this offer ? Thanks for any advice.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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piranha45

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You are too much man for just 1 woman.

Man is not designed to be monogamous. Man is designed to seize prospects and fvck opportunistically.

Drop your monogamy burden and move on with your life. Never stoop your mentality down to that of the Beta Male. The Beta culture we live in will shame you for it, but what it thinks matters not, because you are above it.
 

Desdinova

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Remember the word "NEXT" that you used to see on here all the time? That's what you should do with your fiancee. If the horse is dead, there's no point in continuing to ride it.

Go fvck the 10 and have fun for a change.
 

HoneyHitter

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The new woman is not a 10, unless she leaves her current husband in a respectful manner. Meaning she won't cheat on him and/or take away half of whatever fortune he has.
 

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Cougar10033 said:
She is a 10...
When you're no longer thiking with your d*ck and you're out of the honeymoon phase with this new girl she'll go back to being a 7-8, or worse. So before you put your relationship on the line with your fiancee, be sure about it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Cougar10033

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Thanks guys, I honestly am at a loss. There is a side of me that wants to enjoy myself and fck her.?The other side feels worried and guilty about it. I don't know what I would regret more. I know my current relationship should have been ended years ago.... Hell I became an ATM machine with no benifits from her. This is all my fault... I became afraid of change and lived a boring regretful life.
 

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Cougar10033 said:
I know my current relationship should have been ended years ago.... Hell I became an ATM machine with no benifits from her. This is all my fault... I became afraid of change and lived a boring regretful life.
And yet you got engaged with her? Damn man. Time to grab your balls and man up. If I were you, I would immediately tell her you're having second thoughts and need some time apart, then bang the other girl and explore other options in the meantime.
 

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Drop the fiance.... NOW. Then tell the other one to wait for it.... until she's DIVORCED....
 

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There's a slim space of safety between the frying pan and the fire.

Be careful.
 

WanderingMan

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sodbuster said:
Drop the fiance.... NOW. Then tell the other one to wait for it.... until she's DIVORCED....
I would say this. Or just tell her No (she may still file for a divorce on her own - which would be the best option for you)


And-or just move on. Think about it. You may feel that you missed out on banging a '10', however, how many guys can say they've turned down a 10? That takes some balls.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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mrRuckus

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piranha45 said:
You are too much man for just 1 woman.

Man is not designed to be monogamous. Man is designed to seize prospects and fvck opportunistically.

Drop your monogamy burden and move on with your life. Never stoop your mentality down to that of the Beta Male. The Beta culture we live in will shame you for it, but what it thinks matters not, because you are above it.
Man is not designed at all.
 

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Cougar10033 said:
I am not happy with how I let things get but we almost never have sex and it seems like we are just roommates. She has no plans for the future and just seems content sitting on the couch and doing nothing with her life.
Get rid of her. (Longer version: Read the Rational Male (Rollo Tomassi), CH, and this board. Learn as much as you can, then try to fix things. If you can't, get rid of her.)

Concerning the other woman:
1. Her accomplishments don't mean sh*t. It's her personality that matters. If a woman is crazy, a feminist, or a slut, then having a university degree, speaking foreign languages, the ability to play a musical instrument, or being an amazing athlete won't make her relationship material.

2. She only seems like a 10 to you because you're desperate.

3. She's MARRIED. It is best to stay away from married women for both moral and practical reasons. (As an example of the latter: maybe her husband can't fvck her, but maybe he can fvck you up.)
 
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