Last night I went on a date for the first time with this girl. We were introduced through my friend who has been dating her friend. I wanted to go out with just her but my friends insisted we go on a double date. This was very hard for me to talk to her and get to know her. I think I may have said like 15 words to her the hole night. If it would have just been the two of us things would have gone much smoother. What I need to know is are my chances over with her? If not what can I do.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
First Date
- Thread starter Beach
- Start date
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Joe The Homophobe
Master Don Juan
Have you read the DJ bible?? im guessing you havent, go download it you nOoB!
"What I need to know is are my chances over with her? If not what can I do."
how about asking her for a date just the two of you? simple answer. You have to learn not to be such a *****.
"What I need to know is are my chances over with her? If not what can I do."
how about asking her for a date just the two of you? simple answer. You have to learn not to be such a *****.
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Alpha_Animal
Don Juan
No, you haven't messed up yet because you didn't say anything bad. Never go on double dates is my advise. Just ask her for a dasste for just the 2 of you.
Just to start out i am a very outgoing person i could talk to a stranger for hours but i didnt talk to her that much because the people i went with is like my best friend and we were just constantly joking around, at dinnner I talked my ass off. Just not directly to her. Then at the mall my buddy and I were talking to a bunch of people we ran into. And when we got back with them I was still talking just still not directly to her. After that we went back to my buddys house to watch a movie. We all sat on the couch together and no one really talked at all. We were interested in the movie. After that they had to leave. Right before they left we talked a bit she said she wanted to see me again but i just feel like she thinks i have no interest in her.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Michael Chief
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Double dates work great for ME because im usually the dominant male in the situation.
However, this makes it bad for my fellow male friend haha
Basically, everything's a competition. If you were dominant over your friend, everything wouldve gone just fine for you.
Accept reality and realize that life isn't fair, and neither are double dates. At least you know what to do NEXT time, right?
I dont think you are in a good frame of mind. Instead of thinkin if you have a chance with her, how about judging whether or not she has a chance with you?
However, this makes it bad for my fellow male friend haha
Basically, everything's a competition. If you were dominant over your friend, everything wouldve gone just fine for you.
Accept reality and realize that life isn't fair, and neither are double dates. At least you know what to do NEXT time, right?
I dont think you are in a good frame of mind. Instead of thinkin if you have a chance with her, how about judging whether or not she has a chance with you?
Mr. Debonaire
Master Don Juan
thus far, you have displayed social proof up the ASS by having fun and not inviting her: namely, you had fun and didn't suck up and act wussy around her. you actually have it perfectly set up for next time, she will be aching to hang out with you.
but when you guys hang out, remember to fly solo with her, no dd's.
stay cool, and have fun
but when you guys hang out, remember to fly solo with her, no dd's.
stay cool, and have fun
wavejams007
Master Don Juan
Mr. D, as usual, U have pretty much said it all. Cheers!:cheer:
Mr. Debonaire
Master Don Juan
im just that good
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.