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JoeBlack

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Hey,

I need some help on a first date.

Some background. I registered a while back because I needed more sucess with the ladies. I guess I took the easy way out and didnlt hang about and since then I have had no luck, hence back here and serious about changing.

I set up a date this week with a girl i quite like. It was kinda easy as she made the moves, so I knew there was little chance of rejection (though I still feared it :(... I know, I am trying!)

Anyway we set up a date for Thursday.

We've been exhanging texts a fair bit over the past few days.. I think I will cool it off and then make contact nearer Thursday when I come to take her out.

Anyway, I don't know her too well so I am going to just go out for a drink in a bar and just plan to talk for a bit. In case I get stuck for words (I am shy at times) what subjects are good to approach on a first date?

Any other good tips?
 

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Joe, you seem to be a little casual about this but its actually a good opportunity for you to seriously practice the right way to do what some call the priming date. I would go to the bible and look for stuff that addresses this important get together. I agree that you should stop the chatter so as to whet her appetite for the big day...

regards

mike
 

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In case I get stuck for words (I am shy at times) what subjects are good to approach on a first date?
It's shouldn't entirely be the man's job to come up with conversation on a date. Encountering one of those uncomfortable silences on a date is perfectly normal. Just don't let it bother you. Just sit there and observe your surroundings. Something may or may not come to you for conversation.

If you don't allow it to bother you, it will bother her. Let her be the one to worry about the conversation coming to a hault. If she sees that you're obviously not nervous about lack of conversation, she may think you don't like her, and scramble to talk about something! It works in your favor and keeps her IL up.
 

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DJ tip of the day on dating

Great one today, this will help you for some of the basic fundamentals. This should help.

Allen Thompson is one of today's great authors! :D



TIP OF THE DAY


** Make Simple Decisions Quickly and Easily **


A Don Juan makes simple decisions quickly and easily.

You never stutter, ponder over, or invest a good deal of mental energy
in over-analyzing most of the relatively mundane decisions which must
be made in romantic situations.

When you ask a girl out, you have a plan and make a specific
recommendation. No, "What do you want to do? I don't know what do
you want to do?" You lead. All she has to do is agree. If she
doesn't agree with a particular proposal, then you lead her towards a
different proposal.

A dinner date? You open the car door for her. You park in the first
open spot you see. You approach the hostess requesting, "Table for
two in the non-smoking area." Or if there's no hostess, you quickly
survey the scene, pick out a table and head for it. (You may ask your
date, "Is this table okay with you?" Nothing wrong with being
polite.) You take the menu, peruse it briefly for a few minutes, then
put it down and order. Once you're both finished eating, you pick the
check up and pay it.

No matter what kind of date you go on, whether it's a dinner date in a
restaurant, a party at a friend's house, or a day at the park, there
are dozens of simple little decisions which must be made. As the man,
it's your job to orchestrate the date, to take charge, to make things
as easy and enjoyable as possible for the lady.

Everything should flow smoothly. In fact, she's somewhat judging you
based upon how smoothly the date does "flow." If it flows, she'll
conclude that the date's going well, that there's a certain chemistry
between the two of you, and she will be much more likely to want to
see you again.

If the date doesn't flow, i.e. lots of awkward pauses while you fret
over these minor decisions, she'll begin to doubt that you are, in
fact, the kind of man she's looking for. She'll begin to doubt the
"chemistry."

In addition to increasing your initial dating success by increasing
flow, you need to continue to make these simple little decisions -
quickly and easily - even after you start seeing someone on a regular
basis. Why? Because making these kinds of little decisions quickly
and easily is an EASY WAY for you to garner respect.

Remember, RESPECT is one of the most important elements of a romantic
relationship. If she doesn't respect you, she will never love you...
or even lust after you. Garnering respect from the ladies is crucial
to your romantic success.

There are lots of little ways for you to garner respect (the subject
of a future article). One of the easiest is to handle these decision
points with ease. It's also one of the ways that guys very frequently
screw up... and they don't even realize it.

Imagine arriving at that same restaurant with your date.

You drive round and round looking for the best spot.

There's no hostess so you and her stand there and try to decide where
you should sit. After a couple minutes, she picks a table and you two
head for it.

The waiter comes over and asks what you'd like to drink. You think
for a second, ask what they have, then after he runs down the list,
you finally pick something.

When he comes back to take your order, you're still trying to decide
what you want, still studying the menu. Your date's ready to order.
You ask for more time.

When the check comes, you let it sit there for an eternity while
trying to decide whether you should pay it, or she should pay half, or
whatever.

And so it goes... on and on like this for the entire night. You
faltering on simple little decisions... inhibiting flow and
chemistry... and losing more and more respect in your date's eyes.

What to do? Where to park? What to order? These are all examples of
"decision points" which occur quite frequently in romantic
situations... and these decision points present you with the
opportunity to garner respect from your lady... or to project
weakness.

Of course, we're not talking about taking a dictatorial approach to
relationships. If she wants to do something else, or sit someplace
else, or pay for dinner... fine. These little things shouldn't
really matter to you. After all, you've got your eye on the big
picture -- having fun.

Remember... indecisiveness in a man is a highly undesirable trait,
and will turn a woman off faster than a moldy pair of Scooby Do boxer
shorts.

And when she doesn't kiss you goodnight, begins screening your calls,
and never goes out with you on that second date... you'll have no one
to blame but yourself.

Allen Thompson
DJNewslet@aol.com
 

JoeBlack

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Thanks for the advice guys.

I am definately not indecisive, in fact I have a pretty high positioned job which involves me having to make a lot of decisions per day so thats cool.

I always know what to drink and don't worry about money, I'll just pick up the tab naturally.

ok, wish me luck :)
 

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I don't take my girls anywhere that costs much money at first. Nothing more than coffee or fast food. Sometimes I'm hungry and tell her I'm going to jack in the box or whatever. When we get where we're going sometimes I'll ask them what they'll buy me (at that point they usually say, "Well, what do you want?" and they pay for my meal), sometimes I buy for the both of us, sometimes I'll say, "I'll get it this time, you can get it next time.". Depends on my mood.

But as was said, YOU take the lead. Make plans. Have a backup plan. KNOW where you want this "date" to go. Be flexible. If your plans go awry, be flexible enough to do something else. Either way, you still lead.
 
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