"She's Out of Your League"

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Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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First date with direct approach help using MM

Dragon

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Hey guys, I'm new to all this and have a question about the MM (mystery Method). In his method, he says to go from A1 (into) to A2 (disinterest) to A3 (screening).

My question is, what if I'm on a bus or something and use a direct approach with a girl and tell her to meet me for coffee. When we meet for coffee, should I skip A2 and just go to A3 and start screening her? Or maybe should I even just go C1 and start building comfort? It would seem counterproductive to go to A2 at the coffee date because I was already direct with her and she IS meeting me for coffee, which means she has interest already.
 

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619joe

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Man just nooooo

Bro,your seriously complicating things when they havent even happened.How the hell are you gonna follow sections A,B and C on your FIRST time and remember all of that?If its your first,why not see HOW you do NATURALLY and then discuss with us what you did and maybe we could say where your game NEEDS Mystery Method cause man your just garbling up your brain with too many questions for it to handle.

IMO its just gonna mess you up thats what I think.You said your new to MM,but are you new to social situations?Man think a bit,for a first coffee date,would extreme comfort building be the best approach?No man a light relaxed atmosphere with some laughs is the best way to go just simple questions and just LISTEN to what she is saying and bounce off from that.Then also bug her about a thing or two here n there but thats all.

You are right though,no point in showing disinterest on your date at all its just stupid IMO I dont see what it does if the girl is DTF and you both like eachother.It doesnt matter what type of tricks you pull because even guys who havent read MM are just naturals who dont need to "show disinterest" to get a girl
 

MikeYikes122

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Why not try to improve your inner game rather than run through a list of conversation topics? That way, you can become good in all sorts of social situations not just dates. Develop some inner game and you'll be able to charm in job interviews, make friends more easily and feel comfortable in conversations.

IMO, you're doing yourself a great disservice by trying to game-plan for a date like this. The best advice is to go in without expectations and think of the date as a learning experience - nothing more. Enter into this expecting to get laid or hoping to find a girlfriend, and you're doomed to crash and burn. Just sit back, enjoy yourself and have some good conversation - that's mostly what she is looking for anyway, since she has already agreed to go out on a date with (meaning also that she is already attracted to you on a basic level at least). No need to stress about this and schedule conversation topics for the date. Not only is that creepy, but it's going to make you a nervous wreck.

If you have weak conversation skills and suck in social situations, you're going to be exploited at some point with this girl. Even if you successfully game-plan through the date, what are you going to do when she is back at your place and waiting for you to make a move? What are you going to do on the second date? What if something unexpected happens during this date? My point is, you will be exploited eventually, so why not just go in unrehearsed and see how you do naturally?
 

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MM is not made for direct game. If you want direct game methods you must use either the Gunwitch or Badboy method. MM is NOT created for direct gaming. MM is more suitable for clubs and bars where people hang out in groups and are open to socialize. And direct hardly ever works on HBs inside a set. Its for girls who are alone and won't use your interest as entertainment for the group.
 

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Javan said:
Hey guys, I'm new to all this and have a question about the MM (mystery Method). In his method, he says to go from A1 (into) to A2 (disinterest) to A3 (screening).

My question is, what if I'm on a bus or something and use a direct approach with a girl and tell her to meet me for coffee. When we meet for coffee, should I skip A2 and just go to A3 and start screening her? Or maybe should I even just go C1 and start building comfort? It would seem counterproductive to go to A2 at the coffee date because I was already direct with her and she IS meeting me for coffee, which means she has interest already.
If you think she's attracted to you enough , than you can hop on building Comfort

I think she's attracted to you because she's coming on a date with you , but , i would repeat A123 again to be sure that i dont end up in friend zone .
 

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Alphamale1821

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OMG man MM imo is such a "nerdy" way to look at dating. OK first i'm going to do A1 A2 then transition to A3 after A3 its S1 then S2 dude it's just fuucking ridiculous. Dating is not about calculating what you attraction phase or seduction phase ur going to do next ESPECIALLY if you going direct. If your gonna go direct you just need to be natural.

Don't worry about thinking of what you gonna say next and what gimmick or trick you need to pull out next. Just focus on being your natural cool direct self. Only use MM and shiit like that as a back up. IMHO MM or any of the gimmicky PUA should never be the learning grounds for any newbie. Direct & Natural game should be the learning grounds for newbs.

Focus on inner game and reaching the core of who you are.
 

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Regardless of whether you go direct or indirect, its always best to demonstrate some value and do all the attraction stuff - then you can move to comfort - THIS is where the game is actually played - Comfort is tougher than most people think, you can fall into LJBF zone if you dont escalate KINO and connect emotionally with her.
 

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If you feel that the girl is already excited and happy by your approach alone, then you can simply build comfort and escalate into seduction.
 

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You guys are really helping a lot with this. I appreciate the posts!
 
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