"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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first date; success! what's next!?

HappyHarryHardon

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hey there, just got back from my first date. i will try to keep it short;

so i was already at the shopping center just sitting there preparing myself. i was contemplating wether or not i should of text or called to see what the story is. she text me about the time she said she would be there which is pretty cool. she said "hey where do you want to meet?" i thought she was still at home asking where to meet and i was thinking, wtf, i already told her.

so i called her 5 mins later to not look like a desperate fuk. she told me she was already there in the shopping center at the bottom floor and i said i was just walking in and i will come to her.

she was standing there waiting and i greeted her with a kiss on the cheek which felt really normal between us, no awkwardness. i could feel attraction straight away.

i led the way to the top floor to the coffee shop. luckily it was half open cause they were beginning to shut and the guy said only serving coffee/drinks.

she had a cup of tea, i had some lemonade and i had my money out ready. she offered to pay as she was reaching for money but i said no no that's fine.

we sat down and talked for maybe 30 minutes. heavy eye contact, i told her she looked great.. we spoke mostly about work and sports and other crap. i said lets take a walk. so we did. we walked and talked all around the shopping center (she's never been so i thought why not take her for a tour) - we did that for maybe 15-20 minutes. we got to the beginning from where we started and i thought this is gonna get boring an awkward so i said let's head out its going to shut soon. i felt she wanted to stay and talk more but it would of been boring for me and i didn't want HER to end the night. i told her i was having a good time and she said the same.

i told her if she could just drop me off down the road as i lived literally... down the road. so of course she did. made a few jokes in the car and blah blah. we get to the front of my place, she didnt park in the driveway cause its kinda tricky on my road.. lots of cars. i didn't wanna invite her in on the first date and i just KNEW she would probably say no. i told her i had a great time and that i will talk to her soon... her eyes were on me like a shark. she was waiting for a goodnight kiss. i looked back and leaned in closer and gave her a about three kisses and told her how beautiful her smile was. now the kissing wasnt that great because it was too short. it was one of those 2 second kisses. i didn't really get a chance to have a make out session. i dont know maybe she was nervous or something but i knew she was happy about it. so i said my goodbyes and left.

i really wanted to kiss her more but it felt like she just wanted one short kiss... maybe she's just going easy with this. she DID say she's after a relationship before we had this date.

so now i ask you guys;

what is the next step? did i do alright? was the date too short? when do i contact her next? i'm thinking the movies next date so we can fool around!

i've never really had a PROPER date before... i usually just hook up with girls and we have wild s3x and i didn't really like those girls much. but this one is so beautiful. very pretty girl. and nice.

i have another date tomorrow, heh.


*UPDATE*
oh and i actually forgot to pay for fuel that i already offered on monday before the date LOL. but i think she forgot anyway.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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HappyHarryHardon

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bump? all the other threads threw mine way diwn the page lol. is it really to soon to want to see her on sunday? two days later? i remember my ex was like that. wanted to spend every couple days with me. even at the beginning.
 

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Here's the vibe I get from reading your post:


Your trying to come off to HER as if your smooth and not trying to hard, but inside YOUR TRYING TO HARD and PLOTTING AND PLANNING your EVERY MOVE!

NEVER GOOD!

Realize this, this board is a great resource, a great tool and place to learn, improve and refine your skills as the years go by.

If you try to follow certain rules all the time eventually your going to come off as unnatural and she will see through this facade.

The key to getting good with women is to get good with yourself first. Sounds weird, but its all about loving yourself and having confidence in who you are and what you have to offer.

If you ARE TRULY CONFIDENT in yourself you can toss the rules aside. You will get away with almost ANYTHING you want.

Now I'm not saying to call her all the time and profess your love. I'm simply saying that once you are good with yourself and you UNDERSTAND how to read women and each individual situation you will know the right answer to each scenario.

For example, when I know I got a woman eating out of the palm of my hand, her interest is high and she likes me I can do whatever I want. If I call her the day after I got her number she won't think I'm a chump, she'll be excited to her from me because she knows I'm a confident man.

On the flip side if I want to make her wait for a couple days, she might get more excited to hear from me since she was highly attracted to me when we first met.

Think of it like this:

Acquiring and gaining true self confidence is like acquiring a blank canvas

Reading and understanding how women think and operate is like getting a all the colors of the world to paint your canvas.

Once you have these two, its really up to you on what you want to paint and how it will end up.

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Okay so that might be some deep stuff and you want some answers so here's my thoughts:

-Call her when you feel like it, meeting up on Sunday is fine. I'm assuming you went out last night, so Sunday is 4 days from now.

-Don't go to the movies, that's boring as hell and will reflect poorly on you UNLESS you know she's DTF....(down to fuvk and wants it bad). Seeing as she has already let you know she wants a relationship, I have a feeling she is going to make you work for it a bit.

-Go do something fun and competitive, remember ACTION DATES trump all. Movie date maybe for date 4 or 5 in this situation since obviously you like her and she's not just another slvt to you.

-Refrain from over complimenting her, it will get old quick and lose value each time you give them out.

-Keep her on her toes, be daring, be fun, be exciting.

-Your date was fine, ending first was a good move, since most wait til it gets awkwardly boring which reflects poorly on them.

-Lastly with all that said, don't treat her like some special princess or goddess, the reality is she's just another girl and in the beginning you don't know s&*t from gold, she could be a whack job or she could be super cool. Remember that everyone puts their best face forward on the first few dates, its after this point where you start to get an idea of who she really is!






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You need to holla at and date other woman. You're prone to getting a very severe case of oneitis.
 

HappyHarryHardon

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yeah i know. thats what i did today. went out with another girl but it sucked. didn't really like her. made a thread about that here:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=182827

anyway, i did kind of fuk up today by texting the girl from last night and said i had a good time with her and we should catch up on sunday. i figured it was probably too early and regretted asking that later on. she replied much later on. maybe 5 hours later, saying; "hey <my name> :), i had a great time too. i've got work tomorrow sorry. how about next saturday afternoon?"

i replied an hour later with "sounds good. talk soon!" - this was while i was chatting up a girl in the city lol. so i had a quick look at my phone and smiled when i read it :)

i think i pushed it there with the so soon 2nd date. lucky she sounds interested enough to not run off. ive always been the attached type and when i meet a nice girl i sort of want to see them a lot. i just hate short dates with a nice girl i get along with and want to spend more time. but instead i have to wait another whole weekend to see them. once a week kinda sucks to see a girl but i guess it will end up being more than once eventually. just gotta keep tryin to chat to more girls. only got about 2/3 so far on my plate. very hard to find a girl for me since i don't drink or smoke or party.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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