First Date Report: I don't know why I'm doing this sh!t anymore

[BeDJ]

I don't know why I bother with dating anymore. It's not because I want to get to know them or anything. Anyways, I might as well write up this lame report for the sake of helping others.

Scheduled a date for tomorrow, but I said to myself fvck it. If this chick wanted to see me she would. So I called her up and rescheduled for tonight. She agreed.

Cookie cutter first date with HB 8. 2 venues, same stupid sh!t as always. Indicators of readiness to kiss:

- Pops in a stick of gum close to where I was dropping her off.
- Also lip gloss
- Prolongs the stay in my car at the end by saying she had a good time, I was fun to hang out with, drive home safe.

She opens the door and pauses for 5 seconds. I was going to just let her go until she looked back at me. I told her 'come here.' Kiss close. Typical first date. Will I see her again? Maybe, I don't care.

:yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

Same sh!t different endings. I don't enjoy the company of women, unless we are fvcking. Maybe it's this past weekend where I could bang them on the same meet. Maybe it's the result of knowing you can get easy lays. Why go through all this trouble with dating for sex? I'm lost in my own little world right now.

 

[Jaylan]

Its easy to become disillusioned when you arent meeting any chicks that you really click with. Its easy to kinda get bored. If you wanna just date for fun and sex, do that. But I get the feeling you do wanna meet a chick who makes ya feel something more than indifference.

Meh, it all takes time.

That all said, what trouble are you really even going through if you have the chance to get easy lays. Seems like a carefree and drama free dating life, so whats the problem bro? Like whats your dating goal?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

When it's just a game and it's easy to win.... it gets boring.

You want to try something different? Actually get to know her. Don't make it your goal to fvck her. See if you can actually have some real, genuine fun with her. Do you think it would ever be possible that you would want to see a girl again just because you had a good time with her? Even if you didn't fvck her?

 

[sharkbeat]

You want to try something different? Actually get to know her. Don't make it your goal to fvck her. See if you can actually have some real, genuine fun with her. Do you think it would ever be possible that you would want to see a girl again just because you had a good time with her? Even if you didn't fvck her?

Wasn't that what we all used to do?

 

[Thomson]

I have already said this many times and I will say it again. Abundance gives you a lot but it takes alot.

Then sharkbeat asked whetever it is the same.. No man, this time we are all conscious of what we are doing. It is great joy and playfulness man. Try it. Back then we used to do it unconsciously because of our society's conditionings. This time we are doing it absolutely conscious. An tetr is a whole level of difference. When you are in a relationship with a consciousness, you won't lose yourself. It is just a play. And now a different quality is there, compassion. A beta does not have compassion, he has dreams and passions of marrying his dream girl.

 

[BeDJ]

Its easy to become disillusioned when you arent meeting any chicks that you really click with.

I don't believe in the concept of 'clicking.' If she finds my personality attractive, she will continue to date me. If I find her physically attractive, I will pursue sex. I could care less about her job, personality, lifestyle, etc. At the end of the day, I am not looking to build any type of relationship. Approach - Date - Sex. Anything further is all speculation in my perspective.

That all said, what trouble are you really even going through if you have the chance to get easy lays. Seems like a carefree and drama free dating life, so whats the problem bro? Like whats your dating goal?

By easy lays, I don't mean going out to a bar and having sex with no problem. 3/4 of the time I'm unsuccessful.

My goal is sex with different women. Be it night game or regular dating, both are extremely time consuming. My recent approach on first dates is to see if I can get sex. Otherwise, I throw her on the back burner. Maybe I'm just taking the easy route, going from 0-60. My belief is that if a chick wants to have sex with you, she will decide within the first 10 minutes. It's my job to accelerate that progress.

When it's just a game and it's easy to win.... it gets boring.

You want to try something different? Actually get to know her. Don't make it your goal to fvck her. See if you can actually have some real, genuine fun with her. Do you think it would ever be possible that you would want to see a girl again just because you had a good time with her? Even if you didn't fvck her?

Real genuine fun for me is physical intimacy. You will never know a women until after you have sex with them. I get the feeling that women slowly show their colors after sex because they 'feel' a connection with said partner. They want to reaffirm that the guy likes them for actually who they are. More often than not, I lose interest in a woman after sex.

Wasn't that what we all used to do?

Very true. I used to look forward to second and third dates.

I have already said this many times and I will say it again. Abundance gives you a lot but it takes alot.

Then sharkbeat asked whetever it is the same.. No man, this time we are all conscious of what we are doing. It is great joy and playfulness man. Try it. Back then we used to do it unconsciously because of our society's conditionings. This time we are doing it absolutely conscious. An tetr is a whole level of difference. When you are in a relationship with a consciousness, you won't lose yourself. It is just a play. And now a different quality is there, compassion. A beta does not have compassion, he has dreams and passions of marrying his dream girl.

:kick:

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Well, BDJ, just suggesting some options for you, something new to try out, see if the noodle sticks.

The appeal of getting laid has different meanings for everyone. It's going to be a lot bigger deal to the guy who is Virgin vs. the guy who's in the triple digits....most of the time anyway. True some guys will always be looking for that next lay, BUT, they will be happy and content doing so. You are not.

The hardcore player/DJ who lives and breathes gaming chicks will have a different mind set than someone who's been through that road and now is just ready to relax and settle down with one. You're only 25, you may be at a crossroads. Your hardwired conditioning isn't giving you the satisfaction it once did. Your posts lately have pretty much stated that.

For you, in my humble opinion, it's time to seek knowledge elsewhere. Your education on this site is done. Find a new path.

 

[BeDJ]

1. Denial – Still Plugged -In: “These game guys are a bunch of clowns, there’s no way this works on women. Women aren’t stupid. What a bunch of misogynists.”

2. Anger – Post-Red Pill: “This is ridiculous! Why should I have to jump through all these hoops for women? I just want to be myself. Why couldn’t I have been a Natural Alpha®? I blame my parents/siblings/teachers/God/liberals/feminists/media/society, maybe George Sodini, Andres Breivik, James Holmes wasn’t so crazy after all.”

3. Bargaining – Unplugged: “Well maybe it does have some good points…but, forget the hot girls, they’re way outta my league. I’ll give it a try if it can help me get around the bases with a plain Jane. Do I have to wear the fuzzy hat and black nail polish?”

4. Depression – Bitter Taste of the Red Pill:“Wow, women really respond to this puffed-up act? And guys spend big bucks on it and wind up with more ass than a toilet seat? And I just joined up for this? The world is sad and so am I…”

5. Acceptance – Game Awareness: “Maybe this IS the way things really work. I guess I should give up the gender relations mythology I’ve been holding onto…hey, what do you think of these negs I came up with?”

6. Jaded* – MGTOW Permutations: “**** learning all these rules. Sex isn’t worth it and women aren’t that fun anyway. The last thing I want to do is learn routines or the 5 stages of pickup. There’s too many websites, too much to read, I can’t remember it all much less sort it all out. Who has all that time to go out and chat up women anyway? It’s not like I see any women under 40 at work at my engineering job to practice on. Video games and porn are more fun and more available. I just haffta look good and let the women come to me”

Sh!t.


http://therationalmale.com/2012/07/25/the-5-stages-of-unplugging/

 

[backseatjuan]

You're what we call in Russia ZAZSHRALSA, or literally over ate. You are way too full of yourself at the moment. This song is about you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w2QZAGbUqE especially the part where he says it's time to f'ck a guy now.

 

[handle]

It sounds like you're going out on dates that you don't even care about. Stop going out with girls you have no interest in?

Fukking as many girls as possible gets boring after a while. Especially if you don't feel any connection with them.

 

[The_411]

I'd argue that you need to push your game towards 9s and 10s and challenge yourself, try different approaches, handicap yourself, try to get 2,3,4, chicks to go home with you.

Or take a break and figure out your life goals.

 

[Mr Carraway]

I have already said this many times and I will say it again. Abundance gives you a lot but it takes alot.

Then sharkbeat asked whetever it is the same.. No man, this time we are all conscious of what we are doing. It is great joy and playfulness man. Try it. Back then we used to do it unconsciously because of our society's conditionings. This time we are doing it absolutely conscious. An tetr is a whole level of difference. When you are in a relationship with a consciousness, you won't lose yourself. It is just a play. And now a different quality is there, compassion. A beta does not have compassion, he has dreams and passions of marrying his dream girl.

^^^ good point

 

[Zarky]

I kind of enjoy the disillusionment and the dissoluteness. Seems very 21st century to me. Romance is dead. I'm bored as f*ck with the dating, but that's ok.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I wouldn't be surprised if OP starts experimenting with men due to is bordem with women.

I don't think its to uncommon as well.

 

[Ronaldo7]

It's alright to be a closet homo. Going gay is the new trend after all.

 

[Wolfgang D]

BeginningDJ, why not just do something else for a while? The feeling of excitement will come back eventually if you just lay off the dates long enough.

 

[AAAgent]

I'm very close to getting that into that jaded zone. I always knew i had the chance to get there. My dad is a major player and has overcome alot to get to where he is now, he feels entitled to do what he wants women wise but he keeps it on the dl, althought everyone knows and my mom is genuinely unhappy when he leaves the house late at night. I was always super flirty and playful and would get into girl trouble since kindergarten. I don't really apply myself to women as much as you do as i'm scared of becoming jaded.

When i was younger, i used to think of women as partners to fulfill a part of me that was empty, but more and more each day, i see women as a game. What can i do to entertain myself while still getting her? How far can i escalate with this girl today? I have no real desire for a relationship and most women are boring.

your not the only one that's jaded bud and i'd prefer not to spend the rest of my life alone but i'm pretty set on the mindset that women can't be trusted. The one day you've let off your game and show your true side (the side you should be showing all along but supposedly never are allowed to show) she will turn around and stab you in the back. So in the meantime, i keep my guard up and just go through the motions.

Atleast being jaded protect you from getting butthurt and being blinded by the matrix.

 

[BeDJ]

I'd argue that you need to push your game towards 9s and 10s and challenge yourself, try different approaches, handicap yourself, try to get 2,3,4, chicks to go home with you.

I've gotten a few numbers from HB10's, but could never secure a date. I had first dates with 2 HB9's recently and their phone kept ringing every 2 god damn minutes. One would ignore it and the other would check it. I think my sweet spot is 7-8.

BeginningDJ, why not just do something else for a while? The feeling of excitement will come back eventually if you just lay off the dates long enough.

I took over a month off from dating earlier this year. The first few dates after were a disaster since I was out of sync. The lack of intimacy during that time was pretty bad for me.

AAAgent,

There were some good comments in Rollo's blog.

Having f*ed a lot of women, you don’t feel the same enthusiasm for sex that you had when you where a beta loser. All ***** is *****. It’s like being fed up with some food. When I was a child, I loved chocolates because they were forbidden by my mother. When I grew up, I ate lots of chocolates for years. Now, I see a chocolate and I don’t feel any desire.
The same with women. Diminishing returns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns). Familiarity breeds contempt. ***** is ***** is *****. Yawn.

Sometimes I wonder if there is another matrix that you enter after being unplugged that sex brings artificial joy, as well. I wasn't raised being Game-aware, the opposite is true. The feeling of falling in love for the first time is foreign to me right now. It's possible that I don't care about women because I feel artificially compassionate for them. I'm thinking too much right now.

I kind of enjoy the disillusionment and the dissoluteness. Seems very 21st century to me. Romance is dead. I'm bored as f*ck with the dating, but that's ok.

Diminishing pleasure from sex?

 

[Zarky]

Diminishing pleasure from sex?

You could say that. It's more like.. I'm bored with the whole dating routine. Last year I had a goal which was "40 by 40"... trying to bang 40 chicks by the time I was 40. Several months ago I completed that task and now I need to find another goal to shoot for. The next natural goal, "75 by 50" is so far away that it's not really on my radar yet.

When you think about it, once you're past your mid-30s and you've banged more than a couple of dozen women and had everything from ONSs to multi-year relationships, you've kind of seen it all.

But like I said, that's ok with me. I think boredom with a thing is a good state to be in. I don't have a problem with it. It means you know what you're doing, you've been there before.

I think one of the cues of confident people is the fact that they seem bored in whatever situation they feel confident. The essence of "coolness" is boredom, IMHO. The more bored I feel when I'm out on a date, the better the date usually goes for some reason.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

So you got Kelly Brook's and Mila Kunis's numbers? Well done.

I don't want to derail this thread but.....Mila Kunis? She's got some sex appeal to her, has looked good in some of her stuff but 8 at best.