"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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First Date Kiss: Instinct VS Principle?

j8snx1

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So a lot of the guys here say Kissing on the first date isn't recommended since it would be rushing, whereas the other guys say you should go for the kiss, even if it's the first date, if you feel the vibe or your instinct tells you to do so.

They're both contradicting, but each argument as its own pros and cons.

Which option is the best one to rely on during the first date? Your instinct on when you should kissclose during the first date, or the principles of NOT rushing and maintaining yourself as a challenge and save the kiss for later?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So pimp its scary

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I'll kiss them when I get her number if it feels right... or part way through a date, or when she shows up to the date.

Rushing is meant rushing to sex...
 

Damian

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Depends on your intents and purposes for the girl. If it's just a night out and you want some good poon, then you can rush and go for the kiss as soon as possible so you can get intimate fast. Don't expect this girl to call you back. If you are looking for a quality LTR, then I say hold off on the first date. Establish a system of trust and comfort, then move in for the kiss. Not only will it be more rewarding, but it will also reinforce your relationship instead of hurting your future prospects.

-Damian
 

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well you know those romantic scenes you see in tv?

for example:

"guy and a girl in the rain together"

"guy and a girl holding hands thinking about something thats concerning"

"girl on a guys shoulder"

"girls on a guys shoulder when watching a movie or on a bus or wherever"

"guy and girl hugging for a long time"

this is when its obvious to me to kiss a girl because when you kiss a girl in these situations, then they are HAPPY and they'll WANT to kiss because they think its "romantic/cute".

Otherwise, i just go with my gut... or i play games

ex. You do a favor for her by telling her some info or showing her something and you tell her that she owes you, then later on in the date you say
"oh yeah, you still owe me..."
*point to cheek*
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Alphathree's fool-proof guide to kissing:

- Look for IOIs

- Isolate (Park, Bedroom, Secluded Location)

- Escalate (Kino, Holding Hands, Spooning)

- Get close enough that you could kiss but don't do it just yet (wait for it... 5 seconds or so...)

- Kiss.

If at any point something seems not right or goes outright foul, then you'll have saved yourself kissing her when she didn't want it.

David D says to play with her hair or something stupid like that... this is more realistic.

The idea is to never 'cold kiss' in most situations... step up the interaction so that she's in a state where kissing seems like the right thing to do.
 
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