"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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First date: Day or night?

Which is best

  • Day

    Votes: 7 29.2%
  • Night

    Votes: 17 70.8%

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Always try for a night date because it's known to be more romantic and you might even get to sleep together before it gets dull.
 

rushing dude 123

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I guess it depends on what you want. I am not really the kind of ONS kind of guy, I usually like the whole dating and hunt experience for some reason so its day for me. I also think that with day game you have unlimited opportunity any place and any time in the day you can hit on a hot girl. Whilst guys in the night game are only limited to meeting girls in that venue and at that time. There are some really hot chicks in the day as well especially in the summer.

I know some of you guys have seen some nice juicy latina HB 9 stunner in some hot pants with nice thighs and a big round butt walk past you outside on the street. If you are not willing to do do day game, you can watch that butt wobble away from u foot by foot, but if u r willing to do day game u can be watching it wobble in your apartment the next day as u r getting closer Inch by Inch haha.
 

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LoneWolf said:
that is such bullsh1t. it's all about what connection you and the girl has that make the date go well. if ur only after sex don't date at all.. go to a night club and find some drunk hoe.

by the way, why do you guys always talk about banging like it's the only mission a guy has when he's seeing a girl. take me for example, sure i like sex but when i go on a date with a girl it's not the first thing on my mind... i actually like getting to know the girl and possibly have a good long relationship with them. sex can come after a few dates or more. i seriously think half the guys on this forum just want to have sex with girls and move on to another girl. the old fashion ways are over.
Thank you! Someone with some ****ing common sense. Why the f!uck do all the guys here ONLY CARE ABOUT SEX???? Seriously, it's just sex, not that big of a deal. I'd rather be with a girl with a great personality that is fun to be around that is maybe a 6 over a girl who is a 8 or 9 that just f!ucks any old guy. Some guys heads are seriously f!ucked up.
 

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Energy25 said:
Thank you! Someone with some ****ing common sense. Why the f!uck do all the guys here ONLY CARE ABOUT SEX???? Seriously, it's just sex, not that big of a deal. I'd rather be with a girl with a great personality that is fun to be around that is maybe a 6 over a girl who is a 8 or 9 that just f!ucks any old guy. Some guys heads are seriously f!ucked up.

This^ and agreed.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Energy25 said:
Thank you! Someone with some ****ing common sense. Why the f!uck do all the guys here ONLY CARE ABOUT SEX???? Seriously, it's just sex, not that big of a deal. I'd rather be with a girl with a great personality that is fun to be around that is maybe a 6 over a girl who is a 8 or 9 that just f!ucks any old guy. Some guys heads are seriously f!ucked up.
They say a woman needs to feel loved to have sex, and a man needs to have sex to feel loved.
 

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bigneil said:
They say a woman needs to feel loved to have sex, and a man needs to have sex to feel loved.
Having sex with a random girl does not make me feel loved. It's just sex. It's so much better with someone I actually care about.
 

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Maxtro said:
Huh? What are you talking about?
What he is talking about is that you've been on this forum for 7 years and are still a virgin (?)

And yet you are going on about getting to know girls, rather than just getting some lay notches on your belt.

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There seems to be a bit of confusion in regards to first date compared to approaching chicks.

Obviously you should make most of opportunities to meet chicks, regardless of time of day.

But assuming you get a girls number, the next time you meet her, you should always (wherever possible) aim to meet her again at night.

A lot of guys who responded here are fooling themselves into thinking the reason they want to meet a chick is to get to know her.

Nothing wrong with that, you can do that just as well at night.

But meeting during the day greatly reduces the chance of having s!x assuming that there is chemistry between you.


They are (subconsciously, so they can't even admit it to themselves) using their advocacy for day dating as a buffer to avoid meeting girls in a situation (such as night) where they will have to grow a pair and make a move and risk rejection.

Stop fooling yourselves fellas! You know deep down that night dating is the way to go.

Forget all this b/s about wanting to actually get to know a girl (although that is also fine), we all know you want to bang them as well.

Now get to it!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't get this day or night date issue! Attraction doesn't increase depending on the time of day and if you claim statistics state... then that's your personal statistic that works for you. A date is about a girl getting to experience YOU the activities and whatever time of day it happens to be are irrelevant unless you have a specific activity you'd like to do for a date. Maxtro and guys like him should stop worrying about asinine issues like these and just bring dates to their house and watch a movie and it'll be easy taking things further IF you wish
 

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Social_Leper said:
This is drivel. Your assumption that anyone who puts out on a first date is a skanky hoe shows how immature or inexperienced you are. Some women are, i'm not denying that. Other women are so confident and comfortable about their own sexuality and their opinion of themselves that if things are going well and there is an obvious attraction they really see no reason to wait.

There are tons of high quality women who will put out on the first date for the right guy.
umm, how can a girl determine if you're the right guy in one date. you can't possibly get to know someone that much on a first date. you might be okay with it but to me if a girl gives herself up that easy to me i'm gonna have second thoughts about her.
 

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I'm not surprised there is so much confusion on this issue.

I'm not going to deny that night dates are a great way, probably the best way to lead to sex.

But when you aren't looking to get laid that day, what's the point to going out at night?

There are more interesting things to do for a date then going do a dinner and movie then going out for drinks afterwords.
 

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Maxtro said:
I'm not surprised there is so much confusion on this issue.

I'm not going to deny that night dates are a great way, probably the best way to lead to sex.

But when you aren't looking to get laid that day, what's the point to going out at night?

There are more interesting things to do for a date then going do a dinner and movie then going out for drinks afterwords.
i've always loved going out during the day over hanging out at night at some stupid bar or at home. like a couple weeks ago i met up with my girl in the city and we just chilled out in the sun on the grass and walked around a bit. the night sets the mood for sexuality for some reason. there really isn't much else to do apart from go out for dinner then have sex or something lol.
 

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Maxtro said:
But when you aren't looking to get laid that day, what's the point to going out at night?
According to the majority on this forum, the ONLY goal is to get laid....Glad to see someone that isn't this way.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Would you mind mentioning some things you like to do at night Social Leper?

Also what if the girl doesn't like to drink?
 
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