"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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First date and holding hands

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I came up with this idea just after a first date I had with a girl so I didnt get to try it out but Im thinking it may have potential I just need some feedback.

If your out on a first date with a girl and just walking around after a drink, movie, dinner or whatever and you want to hold her hand but are unsure of how to go about this then could this method work:

Im skinny and as a result I always feel pretty cold and my hands usually feel like ice, so with the cold weather at the moment I could say something about the coldness and then touch her arm with my hand showing how cold they are, then being sneeky move down and grab her hand?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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f283000

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Why are you trying to come up with elaborate plans to hold a girl's hand like if this was some sort of engineering problem?

Remember that women can smell hesitation and nervousness from a mile away. You don't even think about it you just do it!

When i'm on a first date holding hands is the last thing on my mind. High up on the list is doing kino and lots of it. Touching her from the moment we meet, touching her arm, shoulders, back, hair, hands (not walking around holding hands) etc.

I think you need to get your priorities straight. Get her juices flowing by introducing light touches rather than thinking of how you can walk around holding hands. There will be plenty of times to hold her hand later on when she's your gf. For now get her used to you touching her body and thinking of you in a sexual way.
 

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Yup, there's no point in trying to do it stealthily. Either she'll be receptive to the idea of holding hands or not. If you're feeling a good vibe and you're getting along, just go for it. Trying to be all sneaky about it will just come off as weird.

You're the man, you have to lead at all times. You should be direct with everything you do. It's the girl that tries to do things indirectly. There's no point in trying to hide what you want to do. If you feel you're ready to hold hands, just do it.
 

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I usually don't hold hands with a girl until we've already kissed. It feels relatively intimate compared to even something like putting my arm around her. Maybe I'm just weird about that...
 

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Here's how I did it:

We were walking side-by-side. I stuck my hand out between us, and said "Give me your hand."

We then held hands. That simple.

Your method will work too, as long as you take charge and go for what you want. Remember, you're the FKN MAN, BRO! THE WORLD IS IN YOUR HANDS!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You don't need a plan man. If you want to hold her hand then just simply hold her hand. If she likes you she will be receptive.
 

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Don't hold hands until after you have banged her nice and hard. If you ignore this advice you will end up in the "friend zone".
 

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BigJimbo said:
Don't hold hands until after you have banged her nice and hard. If you ignore this advice you will end up in the "friend zone".
Really? I know of no friends that hold hands. Do you?
 

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I don't hold hands. It always felt wrong. The only time it felt right was when I was seriously in love with a girl and she was the same way. On a first date with some hot chic, unless there is serious serious sparks and make sessions we are not holding hands unless I'm leading her to go somewhere. Even then I'll give her the "come here, come on" hand wiggle to grab her hand.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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dereklovesugly said:
I hold hands with all my bros lol
You laugh now but in the Middle East this is very acceptable. So is males kissing for goodbye and hello. Here in North America everyone is afraid of being gay and magically turning gay, it's some weird paranoia going around.
 
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