"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

first attempt...IOI's?

djinhell

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 16, 2008
Messages
160
Reaction score
2
Location
London
Ok, so I have read articles and bits of the bible, and this was really my first attempt chatting to a girl and trying to use dj moves.

So I went to the train station and saw a girl who i have spoke to once before, (she goes to the same university as me). So we get chatting and its all light hearted mainly about our courses and the university, but a few things struck me in the conversation.

- I was smiling and conveyed good body language (which is new to me)

- The conversation generally flowed. (she got the same train as me, so I was talking to her for at least 20-25mins)

- I thought I knew her name, so I said it, and it was correct. she then asked my name...IOI?

- I said something like "Im getting older" (im 23), and she agreed and told me her age (26),...IOI?

I learnt a bit about her, and when I got off the train I said something like

ME - "im sure I will see you around"

and then as I started walking to the door she said something like

HER - "have a nice day off tomorrow"

ME - "I will"

and I got off the train.

This chick was probably a 5.5 - 6.0, I would get with her if I had the chance, but im not that bothered about it.

My question is, was all that stuff just basic politeness, or is any of that IOI (indicators of interest)? and how should I play it next time I see her

would appreciate any DJ's opinions :)

dj in hell
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

The Bat

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 12, 2007
Messages
1,017
Reaction score
60
Responses in bold.

djinhell said:
Ok, so I have read articles and bits of the bible, and this was really my first attempt chatting to a girl and trying to use dj moves.

Good. Read something new everyday, and try something new everyday. That's the formula for DJism.

So I went to the train station and saw a girl who i have spoke to once before, (she goes to the same university as me). So we get chatting and its all light hearted mainly about our courses and the university, but a few things struck me in the conversation.

Keep it light, casual, AND SEXUAL. There is no simple method I can tell you that will teach you to convey sexuality in your conversation but you need to start playing around with it to get a feel for it.

- I was smiling and conveyed good body language (which is new to me)

That's fine. This stuff might feel awkward at first but with practice it'll be natural.

- The conversation generally flowed. (she got the same train as me, so I was talking to her for at least 20-25mins)

Good. Easy conversation is what you need right now. Don't worry even if it's with an ugly chick. Your main goal is to get comfortable talking to strangers.

- I thought I knew her name, so I said it, and it was correct. she then asked my name...IOI?

That's just general politeness. I mean, if you talk to another dude, he will ask you your name. Is that an IOI from him? :crackup:

- I said something like "Im getting older" (im 23), and she agreed and told me her age (26),...IOI?

Hmm, not so much an IOI. She probably felt comfortable telling you her age after you told her "I feel old" and said you were only 23....come on dude, you aren't old. My father is old, not you a 23 year old. You're a young blood.

I learnt a bit about her, and when I got off the train I said something like

ME - "im sure I will see you around"

and then as I started walking to the door she said something like

HER - "have a nice day off tomorrow"

ME - "I will"

and I got off the train.

I think you're overanalyzing here. General politeness demands that you say "have a nice day" to another person. Now if she were to offer you her number, than THAT'S an IOI. :D

This chick was probably a 5.5 - 6.0, I would get with her if I had the chance, but im not that bothered about it.

You DO have a chance. Get her. Get your willy wet. Who cares if she is a 5.5-6.0? Does she make you hard? Then bang her brains out!

My question is, was all that stuff just basic politeness, or is any of that IOI (indicators of interest)? and how should I play it next time I see her

Next time you see her, make small talk. You know some things about her so think of some topics that relates to her. Talk to her about those things for awhile. BE SEXUAL. Throw in a sexual innuendo (in your endo tee hee) or a sexual joke. Then invite her for a drink or two at the bar and get her number. Done. If she turns you down, move on to the next girl. :rock:

would appreciate any DJ's opinions :)

dj in hell
 

djinhell

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 16, 2008
Messages
160
Reaction score
2
Location
London
thanks for reply bat.

my biggest problem is that I seem to really struggle to make things sexual and flirtacious...any pointers on bringing in sexual innuendo without seeming like a creep?
 
Top