"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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fine line between creepy and smooth?

Heretolearn

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Hi,


Creepy/smooth sound different and conjure up VERY different images.

Yet I was thinking about this when shopping tonight. There was a cute girl I would have loved to say hi to. I stopped myself thinking it might be creepy to walk up to a stranger like that.

I know the smooth way makes it feel natural and it would create some entrance. Eg. say something funny about what she is looking at whatever. Yet admittedly I am a 'thinker' type person so I got concerned for coming off creepy.

Why - I understand it does not matter what people think of you in general, but then again, it does not bode well to be a stalker/weirdo type either.

Any thoughts/hints/tips?

maybe its me. I am fit and good looking/dress well so no issues there. I get described as 'eccentric' though and a personality. I once went to a random girl in a store (actually had a reason to chat to her properly). She was really sweet so I asked her about catching up another time to continue the conversation. She said no she has a boyfriend............ 2 weeks later we had a work function and there she is with her bf (guy is an engineer whose father is senior management in the company). It was awkward to say the least............
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Die Hard

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There is nothing to fear but fear itself...
 

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The difference between creepy and smooth is all about confidence. Selling what your saying so to speak and making no apologies for it.

There are many variables that play into this, such as:

-your level of physical attractiveness
-your age or how old you "look" compared to the girl your approaching
-what you say


Salesmanship will take you far and let you get away with a lot, get good at that and you will get away with murder.





PIMP
 

mrRuckus

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I think men should stop using "creepy." It's such a loaded, feminine word almost completely devoid of meaning.

It's like sexual harassment. Depending on who you are, the same actions can often be considered creepy or not.

A bunch of dudes are going to come in here and start telling you a million definitions of what's creepy. Go on long enough and everything will be covered.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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GreyedOut

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I'm usually smooth when I feel no anxiety and zero expectations of the situation I'm in. So if I'm shopping and there is a cute girl to my left and an old lady to my right I am simply appreciating the situation as is. I notice my surroundings and as a normal social and friendly guy I will react appropriately to social situations. If the old lady to my right offers an opportunity to say something friendly or witty, I'll take it. If the cute girl offers the opportunity, I'll take it. No expectations.

For example, the old lady drops bananas on the floor: "well at least you can make banana splits." while helping her clean up. Social and friendly. Maybe the cute girl notices, maybe she doesn't. No expectations.

I'm usually creepy when I'm anxious and expect a result. I'll go out of my way to make a comment to the cute girl even if it doesn't fit well with the situation. I'm too caught up in my thoughts to understand the social settings. She drops a banana and my reaction is awkward. I'll help her and she'll thank me but I won't even say anything in return, or I'll make an inappropriate sexual innuendo like "doesn't look like you handle long objects very well..." awkward....Had I been less caught up in my mind and what she thought of me, I would have taken the time to understand that isn't an appropriate response to the situation.

I find the difference between creepy and smooth is determined by the connection between the situation and your response.

I believe a lot of PUA describes this as "in state"?
 

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Craig Ferguson walks the line between creepy and hilarious. My favorite late night tv guy.
 

Zarky

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Yes, there's a fairly fine line between creepy and smooth. If you're too much on one side you're "sweet" and if you're too much on the other you're "creepy." If you're right in the middle you're "sexy" which is where you want to be.

Generally the older the woman you're hitting on, the further toward the creep side you want to be.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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squirrels

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Heretolearn said:
It was awkward to say the least............
This IS the difference between creepy and smooth.

Why would it be awkward? You didn't know she had a boyfriend, so you did nothing wrong in talking to her.

When a man approaches a woman and believes that doing so with romantic/sexual intentions is somehow "creepy" or "shady", he behaves in a certain way. The woman picks up on the man's perception that he believes what he's doing is "shady" and it makes her very nervous that he's doing something he seems uncomfortable with.

You need to get it out of your head that being a sexual creature is somehow "wrong". :p
 

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I had a pack of hyenas call me creepy call me creepy behind my back the other night. The reason why? That's the funniest part. Because they were mad that I didn't hit on them when I have a reputation for hitting on lots of girls.
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