"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Finding out the truth

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Hopefully this thread can be a source of men who have found out the real reasons women have flaked, dumped them, asked for space etc. I believe that many experiences of these situations comes down to the whole AFC drama but it can happen to any guy at any time. I think the most common theme would be another guy coming back or into the woman's life who you (in the eyes of the chick) fall short of.

I'll start off - One hb7 I dated for nearly a year left me because she 'realized' she could attract hotter men then me. Her reason was because I didn't treat her right. I found out the trutgh from her sometime later.

Another woman started behaving very different a year and a bit into the relationship - her original reason was because I treated her like her father does. Real reason - her father forbid her to continue with me because he is racist.

Final example - Girl broke it off saying she doesnt deserve me because I am too good and sweet of a person. Real reason - I was an AFC ***** with her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hottie aw - got her with confidence, turned AFC BIGTIME!!!!! lost her within a month
Hot user - had her i bed didn't f-close AAAHHHHHH!!!! + did some AFC sh1t along the way, but Some dude broke out of the friendzone and took her (her ex's best friend - OUCH!!) Still wasn't too bothered about this one, she was kinda annoying. BUT YEAH - DON'T MR. NICE GUY IT!!!!

Hot #3 - Dropped me I was trying to 'take It Slow' (like an Idiot). I was all over everything, AMOG'd her ******* ex-bf in front of all his friends (me on my own too :crackup:) had them showing me respect - that night her panties were wet for me, I couldn't take her into my parents house for svx - She dropped me within the week.


Don't try to go slow. Go for the F, seriously! Being a man all the way wont help if you drop the ball before you cross the pantyline - YOU FAIL.

NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
 

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Purefilth said:
Hottie aw - got her with confidence, turned AFC BIGTIME!!!!! lost her within a month
Hot user - had her i bed didn't f-close AAAHHHHHH!!!! + did some AFC sh1t along the way, but Some dude broke out of the friendzone and took her (her ex's best friend - OUCH!!) Still wasn't too bothered about this one, she was kinda annoying. BUT YEAH - DON'T MR. NICE GUY IT!!!!

Hot #3 - Dropped me I was trying to 'take It Slow' (like an Idiot). I was all over everything, AMOG'd her ******* ex-bf in front of all his friends (me on my own too :crackup:) had them showing me respect - that night her panties were wet for me, I couldn't take her into my parents house for svx - She dropped me within the week.


Don't try to go slow. Go for the F, seriously! Being a man all the way wont help if you drop the ball before you cross the pantyline - YOU FAIL.

NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!! NO GO SLOW - F-CLOSE!!
Lol I've done the let's take it slow routine with a couple girls whose IL was through the roof. It made them unbelievably self conscious. They asked me what was wrong with them and why they didn't turn me on. By the time we had sex they were desperate to impress me doing things they claim they never usually do e.g. give head or let me blow on their face.
 
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