"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Demonicale

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Hey everyone, i've been comming to this forum for a very long time, past my reg date and i've read the bible and i've read some really great post's.

I've tried many things and some have worked, and some i've just been too darn scared to even try.

But recently, a light has come on inside me, a spark has appeared in the darkness that is my boring and defeated soul that is "Demonicale".Once apon a time Demonicale was happy and trying things that he'd never do today .. and then suddenly his soul got very cold and crawled away into the sesspit that is defeat.

Ok enough with the poetic talk, just it's a side effect of being free of the shackles and finally being able to SPEAK!.

I did'nt really have any magic cure, it's just one afternoon i cleared out my room and found an old book on the "Mystery Method" .. anyhow the book is'nt important and neither are the pua's in the book (not trying to advertise anything).

So i went away and asked myself, "Demonicale?, why are these guys doing these things and your sat on your arse complaining and doing nothing to even TRY to emulate their success?"

So with that said i went away and came back with the reason ...

Demonicale? .....

Yeah? ....

Your one lazy biatch that want's women to come to your feet and beg you to let them touch you and not do ANTHING TO GET IT.
You think it's a god given right and the way of the world to sit and expect things to come to you right?!

Yeah kinda of *drags feet* ...

Well snap outta that **** and do SOMETHING ... ANYTHING, go clubbing on your own, go dance on your own, go say hi to all those women, wear a mankini ... just DO SOMETHING ALREADY! ... if you want a life and you want women to find you intresting you have to act... and act NOW!...

Anyhow, long story short, i've started talking to women, just commenting on things like what they wear as a starter, and by no means am i there.
But OMG it feel's soooo good!, so much so, i now ask stupid random opinions of things that are just crazy!.

the weekend i had really hot women look at me with just pure intrest, and non like mystery or any other pua that looks like a model i do not.

My weapon for the field?? ....

LIVE ****ING LIFE NOW, GET OUT THERE, DO SOMETHING ANYTHING AND TALK TO EVERYONE.Ask how their day is, tell them they have great boots,gloves,tattoo's.

My point is where i failed is because i was too scared to even try the small work and expect results like this is how life is suppose to be which it is'nt.

Now all i want to do is talk to everyone!.
I'm far from where i want to be, as i can cold approach and open but my small talk needs work as does my ability to escalate.but the diffrence in me now? .. i'm ALIVE AND READY TO LIVE!.

Keep plugging guys cause good thing's can happen! :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Demonicale said:
Hey everyone, i've been comming to this forum for a very long time, past my reg date and i've read the bible and i've read some really great post's.

I've tried many things and some have worked, and some i've just been too darn scared to even try.

But recently, a light has come on inside me, a spark has appeared in the darkness that is my boring and defeated soul that is "Demonicale".Once apon a time Demonicale was happy and trying things that he'd never do today .. and then suddenly his soul got very cold and crawled away into the sesspit that is defeat.

Ok enough with the poetic talk, just it's a side effect of being free of the shackles and finally being able to SPEAK!.

I did'nt really have any magic cure, it's just one afternoon i cleared out my room and found an old book on the "Mystery Method" .. anyhow the book is'nt important and neither are the pua's in the book (not trying to advertise anything).

So i went away and asked myself, "Demonicale?, why are these guys doing these things and your sat on your arse complaining and doing nothing to even TRY to emulate their success?"

So with that said i went away and came back with the reason ...

Demonicale? .....

Yeah? ....

Your one lazy biatch that want's women to come to your feet and beg you to let them touch you and not do ANTHING TO GET IT.
You think it's a god given right and the way of the world to sit and expect things to come to you right?!

Yeah kinda of *drags feet* ...

Well snap outta that **** and do SOMETHING ... ANYTHING, go clubbing on your own, go dance on your own, go say hi to all those women, wear a mankini ... just DO SOMETHING ALREADY! ... if you want a life and you want women to find you intresting you have to act... and act NOW!...

Anyhow, long story short, i've started talking to women, just commenting on things like what they wear as a starter, and by no means am i there.
But OMG it feel's soooo good!, so much so, i now ask stupid random opinions of things that are just crazy!.

the weekend i had really hot women look at me with just pure intrest, and non like mystery or any other pua that looks like a model i do not.

My weapon for the field?? ....

LIVE ****ING LIFE NOW, GET OUT THERE, DO SOMETHING ANYTHING AND TALK TO EVERYONE.Ask how their day is, tell them they have great boots,gloves,tattoo's.

My point is where i failed is because i was too scared to even try the small work and expect results like this is how life is suppose to be which it is'nt.

Now all i want to do is talk to everyone!.
I'm far from where i want to be, as i can cold approach and open but my small talk needs work as does my ability to escalate.but the diffrence in me now? .. i'm ALIVE AND READY TO LIVE!.

Keep plugging guys cause good thing's can happen! :)
Congrats and welcome!!!
 

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If this isn't stickied or placed in the DJB then a fantastic thread will be lost forever underneath all the lazy people's threads . I love it demonacle.
 

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JohnChops said:
If this isn't stickied or placed in the DJB then a fantastic thread will be lost forever underneath all the lazy people's threads . I love it demonacle.
I agree 100%

The way i explain your transformation is ideal to what i teach my friends and people who come to me for help. Think of the entire day as one huge convo...once your fear of ppl is removed it becomes a joke. by doing what your doing, you will attrach every person...they will see u as a man of integrity, which people will see you will not comprimize...this leads to your self whorth...which people will see you have value...and this is where true confidence is built. I am very happy for you, im currently helping a bunch of people I am going to make them all read this thread, it is awsome. How great is it to feel free?!?! not be a slave to your fear!??! im proud of you its great to see people progress...just keep doing it follow your dreams and ambitions, you will become truly happy! Congrats and Welcome once again!

Just remmber AUTHENTICITY!!! it is a huge key to this!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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JohnChops said:
If this isn't stickied or placed in the DJB then a fantastic thread will be lost forever underneath all the lazy people's threads . I love it demonacle.
That mean's alot comming from you, i recently sat down and read your post about starting again or approach, one of the two i forget which one.It really helped me out aswell .. so thanks!!!

j0504s said:
I agree 100%

The way i explain your transformation is ideal to what i teach my friends and people who come to me for help. Think of the entire day as one huge convo...once your fear of ppl is removed it becomes a joke. by doing what your doing, you will attrach every person...they will see u as a man of integrity, which people will see you will not comprimize...this leads to your self whorth...which people will see you have value...and this is where true confidence is built. I am very happy for you, im currently helping a bunch of people I am going to make them all read this thread, it is awsome. How great is it to feel free?!?! not be a slave to your fear!??! im proud of you its great to see people progress...just keep doing it follow your dreams and ambitions, you will become truly happy! Congrats and Welcome once again!

Just remmber AUTHENTICITY!!! it is a huge key to this!
Again i'm blown away by the replies, it mean's that some of the thing's i'm doing people can see and appreciate.This forum is such a great resource tool for everyone!.

thanks guys!
 

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j0504s said:
I agree 100%

The way i explain your transformation is ideal to what i teach my friends and people who come to me for help. Think of the entire day as one huge convo...once your fear of ppl is removed it becomes a joke. by doing what your doing, you will attrach every person...they will see u as a man of integrity, which people will see you will not comprimize...this leads to your self whorth...which people will see you have value...and this is where true confidence is built. I am very happy for you, im currently helping a bunch of people I am going to make them all read this thread, it is awsome. How great is it to feel free?!?! not be a slave to your fear!??! im proud of you its great to see people progress...just keep doing it follow your dreams and ambitions, you will become truly happy! Congrats and Welcome once again!

Just remmber AUTHENTICITY!!! it is a huge key to this!
Everyone has a certain motivator for changing their lives and mainly getting rid of that social phobia. You want to know mine? We only live for 28,000 days ... think about that .. deeply. Our life on earth is short and once you realie it you just have to say FVCK IT and go do whatever you want and don't care what other people think. Talk to whoever you want, pick up whatever girl you want.

Small steps to large ones.
 

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JohnChops said:
Everyone has a certain motivator for changing their lives and mainly getting rid of that social phobia. You want to know mine? We only live for 28,000 days ... think about that .. deeply. Our life on earth is short and once you realie it you just have to say FVCK IT and go do whatever you want and don't care what other people think. Talk to whoever you want, pick up whatever girl you want.

Small steps to large ones.
That's a great point!, and again it show's how little time we have on this earth to achieve what we want to achieve whether it's to be wealthy or in our case, to get with the ladies.

I think what did it for me is i finally realized that looks are'nt as important as we think, it's about what we do and how we do it.

This aswell as the fact i kept saying to myself that it's all a numbers game, and with each experience you learn something, and then you improve and stream line what works for you.
 

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Demonicale said:
That's a great point!, and again it show's how little time we have on this earth to achieve what we want to achieve whether it's to be wealthy or in our case, to get with the ladies.

I think what did it for me is i finally realized that looks are'nt as important as we think, it's about what we do and how we do it.

This aswell as the fact i kept saying to myself that it's all a numbers game, and with each experience you learn something, and then you improve and stream line what works for you.
you really have to sift through all the bs that has flooded this site, however there still are very good threads and posters here who give great information. Looks are not 90% of your game, honestly how do you think an average looking guy attracts a 9..... That argument is so shallow and holds no water.

You're right its a numbers game, there are girls out there who will like you and who won't like you. Your goal: sift through the ones that don't to find the ones that do and then make your choice.
 

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JohnChops said:
you really have to sift through all the bs that has flooded this site, however there still are very good threads and posters here who give great information. Looks are not 90% of your game, honestly how do you think an average looking guy attracts a 9..... That argument is so shallow and holds no water.

You're right its a numbers game, there are girls out there who will like you and who won't like you. Your goal: sift through the ones that don't to find the ones that do and then make your choice.
Spot on!, it's a shame you don't live in my city, you sound like you have an idea about what you've got to do.

yeah there is alot of crud on here, but then their is gems buried beneath all the crap :)

I find with talking to women, it is a numbers game and you just keep having to talk to every girl you see haha .. and within reason ;p
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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