Fights

[drak_ool]

2 anecdotes that somehow relate to your story/attitude:

1) where I'm at right now (Detroit) there's a story that goes like this every single weekend: "2 guys get into a fight in a club. Guy A gets beat up, goes home, grabs his gun, then comes back and waits for the other guy in front of the club. Guy B walks out and he gets shot, together with all his buddies." Might be news to you but guns>>>muscle.

2) I've started boxing in my teens, grappling about 5 years ago, trained on and off at an mma gym. The more I learn about fighting, the less I want to do it outside of a ring/cage. Yes, I have been in fights over the last few years, but almost everytime it was to save one of my hotheaded buddy's asses. The main thing I've learned from training is that there will always be someone better than you, regardless of physique. Just because you are bigger, doesn't mean you are the better fighter. But keep acting the way you are now, and soon you will find that out the hard way.

 

[ArcBound]

Rule 1 Never get into a fight
Rule 2 If you do, make sure you WIN

 

[snowdog]

-- Snowdog - I agree. I mentioned fights, but maybe I should have called it altercations that could lead to 'em. If I was sooooooooooo out of control, I would be fighting often and I haven't. I project a lot of strength very aggressively and am ready to roll. A couple of my friends do the same, but fight quite a lot.

Yea... like I said, you need to chill. Do some meditation or something. This is negative energy. It's bad for you and your environment. When I'm going out or just make contact with strangers in general, I'm friendly and positive. It's a lot more fun that way and girls dig it better too. Anger just sucks, man. You'll die of a heart attack sooner or later if you live this way.

I have dealt with a bunch of guys like you in the past while I was out. There's always the angry guys who want to start sh*t for no reason. In the end, I always manage to defuse it. I even was able to create a situation twice where everyone got along and was buying each other beers and hung out like buddies. Sounds a lot more fun that getting your teeth kicked in doesn't it?

From my life experience it seems quite the opposite, actually. Women appear to be quite drawn to them. They all want to "fix him" or "can't walk out on him when everyone else in his life is." Really works for a lot of guys.

There are two kinds of aggressive. Being aggressive sexually towards a girl is something completely different that trying to start fights with random people. I had a lot of anger in me a few years ago as well, and it didn't help me jack sh*t. Now I've pretty much dealt with my anger and self-loathing, I notice that girls and people in general are much more open to me.

I've started boxing in my teens, grappling about 5 years ago, trained on and off at an mma gym. The more I learn about fighting, the less I want to do it outside of a ring/cage. Yes, I have been in fights over the last few years, but almost everytime it was to save one of my hotheaded buddy's asses. The main thing I've learned from training is that there will always be someone better than you, regardless of physique. Just because you are bigger, doesn't mean you are the better fighter. But keep acting the way you are now, and soon you will find that out the hard way.

+1.

I started kickboxing a while ago and I know exactly what you're talking about. The more you know about how to whoop some ass, the dumber it seems to do it on the street. And like many others said, people walk around with guns and knives.

 

[R19]

All right tough guys, here's one for y'all. I was at a trendy club last night with my friends. They are younger than me and I don't rage like they do. It was one of their birthdays and we were all having a good time. The girls were up on the couches and all over dancing like a lot of the others from time to time. This guy that I don't know walks up to me and tells me he wasn't aware that 'this is a black club'. He didn't happen to know that I was with both the guy (his birthday) and the girl he was referring to. I played it off, but I wanted to unload on him to correct his attitude. Also, I only would have had to mention this comment to my close friend and it would have went down in a split sec because he is straight up Tyson and makes me look like a pu$$ycat. What made me really angry is that I didn't say anything, and then a minute or two later he was saying hi to my close friend like nothing happened. What would you have done? I think no comment equals no correction in behavior. Still to this day many people carry a racist mindset to a degree and it seems to be human nature to differentiate and pre-judge, but that is such a poor way to carry about.

Later I was behind a couple guys that must have done something to the girls in our group because my close friend almost dropped one of 'em. Kind of like watching a great white shark getting ready to strike. I am happy that the situation was diffused...

Here's another one - a while back - on the way from one bar to a club across the street, a guy in a group of three or four called out 'nice tits' several times loudly, commenting about a girl in my group who is really well built. Who does that? He was such a little piker, I wanted to rip into him.

No incidents at the gym for a long time, but I am even more ripped. Been meeting more people there too.

I would appreciate comments from those who know how to read and like in the real world as opposed to some Hollywood, video game, TV la la land...

 

[Drum&Bass]

I like it when guys NEED to be tough and fight to get girls. It's natures way of breeding retards out of existence. Sure there are some things worth fighting for but petty social situations are NOT one of them.

If you truly were a man with something to lose, like finances, family etc. fighting would not even enter into your mind.

If you have NOTHING to lose, no control of your emotions and you haven't learned TOLERANCE...then I fully recommend you CONTINUE getting into fights !! (and perhaps you will mess with the wrong person who sues you or kills you.)

 

[Semtex]

Let's get this straight...girl introduces you to strange guy...strange guy immediately goes for the insult?

That never happened to me... I'm no MMA fighter, but I'm also not insultable (is that a word?) by default. Something about you leaves you open for ridicule and confrontation, work on that first.

All this other short fuse stuff is overcompensation 101... work on your inner game and you wont constantly neeed to prove yourself to others.

I also have the sense that you have a 'height problem'. Women are able to pick up on Napoleon complexes you know... and that's not sexy.

 

[Iceberg]

I think no comment equals no correction in behavior. Still to this day many people carry a racist mindset to a degree and it seems to be human nature to differentiate and pre-judge, but that is such a poor way to carry about.

You could have simply said, "Those are my friends, man." And he would have offered some kind of apology.

Your problem seems to be that you feel that it's your job to correct others' behavior. The world is full of d-bags, and we're at the other end of that spectrum. Going around "raging" and getting into arguments over small crap just makes you seem like a D-bag. It's not tough, it's not cool, it's not what real men do.

Later I was behind a couple guys that must have done something to the girls in our group because my close friend almost dropped one of 'em. Kind of like watching a great white shark getting ready to strike.

No. It's more like watching some drunk morons at a club about to get into a fight. Maybe you're from the suburbs or something. I live in Philadelphia. People get shot in these little club fist fights. My dad taught me early: "If you're going to get into an altercation, treat it like a fight to the death." That means, if you're going to fight someone, it better be worth dying over. Because you have no idea how this fight is gonna play out. You can be as ripped as you want to be...maybe you knock out the first guy, and his friend is the dude who shoots you. All that because he did some minor thing to bother you.

But honestly, I think you're one of those guys who likes fighting. I think you feel like it proves something. You prove a lot more about your confidence by being friendly, laid back, and an easy person to get along with.

 

[R19]

- I am not short.
- Yes, I like to correct behavior. I should be a consultant...
- I don't get into fights, but am ready to fight. They tend to see that I am dead serious if it comes to that and back away.
- I choose my 'battles'.
- I don't start a situation, I end it.
- Without disclosing - my city has as many gangs, criminals, etc. as any other major. It's a big place and you can find me in the better areas. In the past I have lived in parts of a city where I heard occasional gunfire, but that's about it. Pound for pound, given how many people go out around here, I hear little about significant violence in nightlife.

- Yes, Semtex that is how that piker started things off when I met him - a funny little insult... who does that?

Thanks for the comments. I think my thread is more about behavior correction which may be resolved by violent or non-violent means. If you go out, things will happen. If you are with a chick(s), things will happen. If you mind your own business, things will still happen.

 

[Kailex]

If you go out, things will happen. If you are with a chick(s), things will happen. If you mind your own business, things will still happen.

Funny, because for YEARS I went out with chicks... and nothing happened.
I minded my own business... and nothing happened.

What I did generally find out, after many years of bartending... was that the people that sometimes got into fights, were the people that LOOKED like they wanted to get into fights even if they were out to get a good time.

After a few months, I could tell who those were.
You're probably one of them.

Which means you'll either end up getting beat up, shot, knifed, in jail, or in the best case scenario, punched ONCE before the fight gets broken up.



I've had PLENTY of people say racist things to me, and do you know what I did? SMILE and just laugh it off.

It was never worth it to me to answer back. If he thought he was a better man for saying something stupid, hey, that's his own POV.

But I'm not risking my life just to "prove something" or "correct something".

Sorry buddy, but every time I heard people boasting about how jacked they were or how "no one is fvcking with me tonight"... I ended up seeing those people looking and asking for trouble continuously. You say you don't ask for trouble and that you mind your business, but in your posts you come across as "fight-ready" which means that people can read that from you physically as well, and usually those are the first guys that get fvcked with.


Good luck.

 

[kingsam]

R19 you should provide us with a picture to show exactly how stacked you are.....

coz most people who say they look great/ripped on the net - turn out to be far from it...
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this thread remeinded me of my longest Ex i didnt really used to go out drinking with her much, but she'd always get into fights with other girls
lol

 

[Iceberg]

R19 you should provide us with a picture to show exactly how stacked you are.....

coz most people who say they look great/ripped on the net - turn out to be far from it...
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I'd rather not see a picture of him. Whether he's ripped or not, the fact that he finds the need to keep talking about it tells you where his inner confidence levels are at. And also the fighting.

 

[R19]

Yep, you guys got it nailed. Instead of commenting on what you would do or providing other examples, you cvm all over yourself with your machinations of who you think I am. Yeah I go out all the time and nothing ever happens...

 

[Kailex]

Yep, you guys got it nailed. Instead of commenting on what you would do or providing other examples, you cvm all over yourself with your machinations of who you think I am. Yeah I go out all the time and nothing ever happens...

Since you are apparently illiterate:

I've had PLENTY of people say racist things to me, and do you know what I did? SMILE and just laugh it off.

Maybe the second time is a charm, junior mint.