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Fieldreport / DJBC (advice plz??!!)

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Fieldreport / DJBC (advice plz??!!) ****now updated with full post****

pt2 in post #8, scroll down and let me know what you think, please.. :confused:

Originally posted by Hit
K so... I had a pretty great night tonight. All along, the bootcamp had been going slowly, and we got up to week 3 (SirLancelot's BC) and kinda stagnated.. no one did anything from week 4 (get rejected). Regardless, I was obviously still goign to have fun...

So, tonight.. i'm at this lounge, having a great time, a bunch of friends, some nice lesbian looking chicks dancing.
whoa.. sorry.. I was pretty drunk, submited the thread by accident. Then i was editing it and I got sidetracked and ended up passing out. Here is the rest of the post full post:

(also note that I put cliff notes on the bottom for the lazy)

K so... I had a pretty great night tonight. All along, the bootcamp had been going slowly, and we got up to week 3 (SirLancelot's BC) and kinda stagnated.. no one did anything from week 4 (get rejected). Regardless, I was obviously still goign to have fun...

So, tonight.. i'm at this lounge, having a great time, a bunch of friends, some nice lesbian looking chicks dancing.

*continued typing from next day*

---not a bad way to break a pretty long dry spell I guess, let me know what you guys think and you're advice on the situation plz---


Not a bad crowd overall I would say. It was a buddies birthday, so I walked up to these two lesbian chicks (more then likely attention *****s) who were..provocatively.. dancing and hooking up by the dance floor and asked them to "take care of my friend".. She replies that shes lesbian, but she would show him a good time if he started dancing with her.. Whatever, insignificant stuff.

Some time and several drinks later, some people I know walk in: a guy with like 5 girls, one of which i've had an interest in but havn't really seen around at all lately. I invite em to sit down with our group, we grab more drinks, wahtever... pretty good time.

I engaged in subtle kino with the girl that I liked, talked to her for a bit.. then a few drinks later we were up dancing with her grinding up agaisnt my cawk. Her 3 friends seemed like they were going for my attention, also started to try to dance with me and grind up agaisnt me.

By this point, I had pretty heavy kino with some petting going on with this girl, she was rubbing her ass all over my cawk, hands exploring all over while dancing, ***** grabs my ass even :p I also was pretty much all over her, but we still didn't hook up.

Uhh, going on a little bit forward, I go to bathroom.. and there was a line to get in (only one room for men/women). This girlie and her friend was there, they started dancing with me some more.. Her friend grabs my cawk, and the girl directs my hands and puts them on her other friends chest... whatever, then someone asks whos waiting on the bathroom, and this girl replies me and him.. as if we were gona go in together. That didn't happen - our turn came up, and she went in with her friend (girl), i just took a leak when they get out..

Going forward a little bit later, I'm dancing with her again, we have eye contact established, and I wanted to go for the kiss but it just didn't feel appropriate (or maybe i just don't have enough balls to risk ****ing things up yet??) I gave her a kiss on the cheek cause she had her back to me dancing up agaisnt me, and it seemed appropriate.. and she says "aww thats sweet" or something to that effect. (perhaps this is where i ****ed things up, and let the old AFC in me show??)

Also, it is important to note that she is a pretty good looking girl, and she had guys hitting on her the whole time through. I'm chatting with some friend's, and i notice some loser is trying to talk to her telling her that "it's love at first sight". I continued chatting with my buddies, and then grabbed her hand and went dancing with her after a few minutes of that loser tryin to pick her up... But uhh.. throughout the whole night, people kept trying to pick her up and she kept an inclination toward me (or at least it seemed like it). I tried not to show that I cared too much, kept on doing what I was doing, dancing with girls, talking to people.. but it was obviously pissing me off that here is a girl who I'm trying to get (and had interest in for a while now) and shes flirting around with some other kids.

Toward the end of the night, we were going to leave the lounge and head to another spot to chill out for a little bit longer. She was outside talking to some kid by his car who was trying to pick her up (kino, etc...) This is where I was stumped.. On one hand, I want this girl, on the other, i don't want to come across as being a desperate AFC. I chated around with some friend's outside, left her alone pretty much (and noticed she was glancing at me time to time from the corner of my eye). After like 15 mins, I walked over half way to her, told her that we were leaving, and walked back to my group of friends.. We ended up being outside of the lounge for like 20 minutes afterwards getting **** organized, and before leaving told her friend's were we were going.

To make an already excessively long story short: We get to the other spot we were going, and i'm just standing outside with my friend's talking. I see a little bit further down the block 2 cars pull up with the girl and her friend's.. they stay outside for like 5-10 minutes, I see that girl, but it wasn't obvious that I did.. I wasn't really staring in their direction, just kept doing what I was doing. 10 Minutes later, they leave without coming up to us/me.. and she calls me (we exchanged numbers at the lounge) telling me that they were outside of the spot we were, and they were going to go home because she had work tommorow.. and how she was going to call me the next day to go out or chill or something.

So.. that's that. I'm not really waiting on or expecting her phone call, but I wanted to find out what you guys think about the manner in which I handled all of the competition for this girl. I think I should have obviously kissed her at the very least, and I could have probably gotten away with dragging her into the bathroom with me to catch a quick bj.. but.. I dunno. Bottom line is I didn't, and I need to figure out how to fix whatever it is that I need to fix.

Cliffs:

- Out with friend's for a buddies bday, having a good time at a lounge.
- A girl who I have had an interest in, but never seen her around, comes in with some friends of hers.
-I dance with the girl and her girlfriend's, pretty heavy kino, petting goes on between her and myself, and her friend's start competiting for me as well.
- I don't hook up with her (not sure why not :confused: ).
- She has guys competiting for her throughout the whole night, i'm not sure if I handled that in the proper DJ manner.
- She first says that she's not going to go with us to an after hours spot, then spots by with her friend's but is outside by their cars, and then leaves without walking up to us and says that she was outside and shes going home and will call me tommorow (today).

So.. help me o'wise DJs.. I'm trying to beat the AFC out of me, but the guys in my bootcamp seem to be pretty inactive.

But overall, I would say considering I've had a HELL of a long dry run with the girlies, this was a good night and I enjoyed myself a lot. A success is important once in a while.. kinda makes you wana get up from your ass and hit up the gym hard again, and get out there and become the DJ which I was destined to be. :woo:

also.. other bits and blures that just popped into my head:

Outside of the lounge, toward the end. . . I said something like "yeah.. we're going to the afterhours spot together" to one of her friends while she was standing by - to which she replies something like "we're not together"

Pretty stumped, I reply "yeah.. I said we were going... together.." and just left it off with that.

So, I don't know if i'm giving some kind of clingy AFC vibe (which I might be given the basis of my prior dry-spell).. but whatever it is needs to be corrected.

----Advice? :confused:
 
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Re: Re: Fieldreport / DJBC (advice plz??!!)

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
If thats a FR then Im the Prince of persia :crackup:

Theres something in this world called...DETAIL!!!

How can anyone give advice to that?

My advice is - Read some Good FR's and then post your own.
or read my FR, i'm the Prince of Persia ;) j/k
Originally posted by Hit
Going forward a little bit later, I'm dancing with her again, we have eye contact established, and I wanted to go for the kiss but it just didn't feel appropriate (or maybe i just don't have enough balls to risk ****ing things up yet??) I gave her a kiss on the cheek cause she had her back to me dancing up agaisnt me, and it seemed appropriate.. and she says "aww thats sweet" or something to that effect. (perhaps this is where i ****ed things up, and let the old AFC in me show??)
i gotta say, this is the only where you went wrong. i think after she said "aww that's sweet," you should have gone for the tongue kiss, and said something ****y like..."that's pretty sweet too, isn't it?" idk, good job on the effort though.

if a girl gives you the cheek herself, put your finger to her chin, and kind of turn her head...pretend like you're going for the cheek, but actually go in and kiss her neck. and whisper something like "i gotcha..." in her ear...be playful with it...make her laugh.

it's never a last-chance situation...don't worry, you won't look desperate. the guys standing on the wall and not approaching until they're absolutely plastered are the ones looking desperate.

nice job on the FR though, keep at it...you'll be able to break that dry spell soon. and btw, social proofing works wonders on your game... :woo: :up:
 

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Re: Fieldreport / DJBC (advice plz??!!) ****now updated with full post****

Originally posted by h2o
or read my FR, i'm the Prince of Persia ;) j/k

i gotta say, this is the only where you went wrong. i think after she said "aww that's sweet," you should have gone for the tongue kiss, and said something ****y like..."that's pretty sweet too, isn't it?" idk, good job on the effort though.

if a girl gives you the cheek herself, put your finger to her chin, and kind of turn her head...pretend like you're going for the cheek, but actually go in and kiss her neck. and whisper something like "i gotcha..." in her ear...be playful with it...make her laugh.

it's never a last-chance situation...don't worry, you won't look desperate. the guys standing on the wall and not approaching until they're absolutely plastered are the ones looking desperate.

nice job on the FR though, keep at it...you'll be able to break that dry spell soon. and btw, social proofing works wonders on your game... :woo: :up:
thanks for the advise man, it is appreciated.

It's been a problem in the past for me: going for the kiss close. Unless the girl is infront of me giving me those "**** me" eyes.. I just have a hard time going for the first kiss. I could have very well went for it yesterday.. but whatever, what's done is done, and I need to be sure to not repeat my ****ups (more so then I have been in the past).

But - even though i'm not discouraged, I know from working in sales that unless you get the close the first time, chances of you getting it going forward are slim at best. I don't really think this girl is going to call me today. Most likely (with the assumption that she doesn't call) i'll give her a call in 2 weeks or so, find out whats going on.. see if she wants to go out, and then take it from there. However, any further advise would obviously be welcome.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Fieldreport / DJBC (advice plz??!!)

Originally posted by h2o
or read my FR, i'm the Prince of Persia ;) j/k

i gotta say, this is the only where you went wrong. i think after she said "aww that's sweet," you should have gone for the tongue kiss, and said something ****y like..."that's pretty sweet too, isn't it?" idk, good job on the effort though.

if a girl gives you the cheek herself, put your finger to her chin, and kind of turn her head...pretend like you're going for the cheek, but actually go in and kiss her neck. and whisper something like "i gotcha..." in her ear...be playful with it...make her laugh.

it's never a last-chance situation...don't worry, you won't look desperate. the guys standing on the wall and not approaching until they're absolutely plastered are the ones looking desperate.

nice job on the FR though, keep at it...you'll be able to break that dry spell soon. and btw, social proofing works wonders on your game... :woo: :up:
Yeah I got to agree with this. Very good effort! I also got to say that making little mistakes like this aren't going to maker her "OMG WTF NEXT" you. It's takes a few of these mistakes to make them think twice.
 

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thanks for the replies guys :D

Here is a followup: This, so far, has been a hell of a weekend. Field report for Sat night follows:

cliffs at the end for you lazy ****ers

Got together with some friends at another lounge, still continuing the celebration of the guys birthday. So.. we get to the lounge, pretty dead scene.. not too many people at this point. We just sit down with the people we came there with, grab a few drinks and talk.. etc..

Along with us came my friend's old friend.. she is a pretty hot hb8 girlie, but shes one of those nice types.. no drugs ever, just broke out of a 5 year relationship (shes 20) this past year, etc... She sat down with me on the couch when we sat down, and after a while we were just talking, I had my arm around her, established some minor kino and eye contact. She definetly seemed like a pretty interesting prospect going forward, and I treated her as one. About an hour or so into it, where it was at a point where I was just basically talking exclusively to her, everyone else was doing their own thing.. my friend walks over and points me to this HOOTTT woman laying down on the couch across from us, with some guy sitting across from her on a table.. she was laying there, with her huge perfect tits just popping in the air, legs in the **** me position, and ass just kinda peaking out.. take my word for it for when I say it was about as close to a hb10 body as I could get (she had a bit of a horse face, but that was neglegible).

So my friend says to me.. as soon as this guy gets up, I'm going over to her to talk to her.. I agree to back him up. After about 20 minutes of me talking to the nice girl, I look over and the girl is ALONE, just her and some other girl sitting at the table. I call my friend over, push his ass up, make sure that the other guy isn't coming over, and that was that. Next thing I know my buddy is hooking up with the hb10, and her friend who called herself a "plus sized model" is trying to sit down on my lap to take a picture. I told the girls it was my buddies birthday, and I grabbed a camera from the nice girl I was talking to prior, and went to take pictures of him.

"Kiss him for the camera".. worked pretty well. First he got a kiss on each cheek from the plus sized model and the hb10, then another try with that got him some nice tounge action with the hb10 (probably some VDs as a side order with that, but that's a different story).

At this point, I decided i'd leave them alone and wen't back to the girl who I was talking to prior.. things were pretty good, chatting, she had her hands on my legs, i had my hands over her.

I went for the number close .. a simple "give me your number" and handed her my phone, worked pretty well. She was smiling, telling me how she was having problems this past month/year but how great of a time she was having now. I took some wacky pictures with my head on her breasts, smiling, some other ones of the two of us together, she was practically laying down ontop of me at this point..

But whatever, skipping all the useless things, we went to a hookah bar afterwards, talked more with constant eye contact.. She made come comment to me like "you seem like such a fun guy!" Told some old stories to her, while keeping my mind on droping sexual hints in there just to stir things up a bit.

After we left that spot, I walked her back to my car with my hand around her lower back, and drove her home cause she needed to be at work early. I decided not to go for the kiss close, but I gave her a nice kiss on the cheek and told her that I'd give her a call sometime. She gave me a nice smile and that was that.

So.. yeah... over all, I'd say I had a great weekend. Also, as a note pertaining to my ongoing bootcamping, when I was walking outside of the lounge, some girl was standing blocking the door. I put my hand on her waste, gently pushed her aside and said excuse me. As I was walking away I heard the fat ***** say something along the lines of "and never touch me again". Just put a smile on my face knowing what she WASN'T getting, and walked over to this nice girl I just met today and put my hands around her waste.

So.. yeah.. I'm definetly getting there. The whole weekend put me in a mood to reread the DJB, get back into the gym hard, and continue along with my success. I would say going from a dry run of several months, this was not a bad weekend at all to jumpstart things.

ALSO... I was informed today by two of my buddies (the guy the girl came with, and another friend).. that she apparently likes me, and that they talked to her in the morning - told her that I CALLED HER but couldn't get through (she replied saying perhaps she gave me the wrong number) and that she wanted me to come over to her house to help her figure out how to get last night's pictures off of the camera. So now: problem is, my friend's killed what I assumed to be a vital DJ rule.. don't call the girl for at least a week (which i wasn't planning on doing). OR at least.. they ruined the impression for me, even though I didn't call her. HOWEVER, they said she wanted me to come over, and... I'm kinda stumped on that..

So... what the **** would you recommend I do? I havn't called her up yet, but she apparantly thinks that I did, BUT wanted me to come over. So again: what would you recommend for a scenario such as this taking into account that she came across as being the nice subtle type of girl who wouldn't do too much within the begining time frame of meeting a guy.

Cliffs:

Saturday - field / follow up report

- Met up with friends, one of which brought along an old hb8 friend of his, and wen't to a lounge.

- Went for the hb8, kino + eye contact.. Conversated with her and she seemed like being a pretty nice girl, and a good prospect.

- Hooked up buddy with HB10 sitting across from us, took a bunch of REALLY nice pictures, etc.. (might be able to post them later if I get them)

- Went to after hours spot with that girl that I met, things went pretty well.. she maintained kino, had a nice conversation, complimented me and showed difinite indications of interest.

- Droped girl off, giving her a kiss on the cheek.

- Day after (today) friend's inform me that they spoke to her, she apparently likes me, and she THINKS that I tried to call her, but couldn't get through. She wants me to come over her house and help her get the pictures off the camera that we took yesterday.

-Also, as a followup, the girl I liked from Friday night did NOT call me. I'll give her a call in 2 weeks to followup... (opinions..?)

So..

(1) Should I call the girl from last night and enquire about going to her house (even though it breaks the rule that I'm not supposed to call them within a week of getting the #)

(2) Am I right in my course of action with the girl from friday night (wait 2 weeks to call.. leave it at that??)

Thanks! :woo:
 

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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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so.. my dumb ass friend(s) [the kid who ****ing BLEW his chance with that HB10 mentioned in the previous post.. after the girl said she intended on "robbing the craddle" with him that night] spoke to the nice girl in the morning.. told her that I called her the previous night and left a message, and something or other else..

As per him, she was already asking why I didn't call her, and said she wouldn't mind if I came over to help her with some stuff at her house.

So.. putting that aside, I decided I'll stick to the way of the DJ and give her a call sometime around next weekend. Should give her some time to think about me (if I made nearly as much of an impression as I think I did).

...off to the movies with some friends. . . Good to be back on the ball. :woo:
 

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well... another twist in events.

Apparently my buddy wanted the pics bad enough that he had her call me up, I took her to the movies.. then to a cafe, and then the broadwalk.

I'll go ahead and skip the details, but it was a good time :D Spent a few hours with her ontop of me on the lifegaurd bench. :woo: And then the car ride back wasn't too bad, either :D

But.. she came across as being a really nice girl, definite prospect for a LTR if one was to occur. That's it.. I'm about as motivated as can get. I'm hitting up the gym hard tommorow, try to reread/review the DJB, and overall going at it hard :woo:

DEFINETLY a GREAT weekend, and an EVEN BETTER way to break a dryspell. :D

Sarge on e-buddies.

*edit* oh.. and no problem going for the kiss close this time. I did exactly what I picked up here, looked at her eyes, her lips, back at her eyes.. maintaining strong eye contact brought my nose by hers.. and went at it. Also.. she really seemed to enjoy the breathing thing I picked up from here, also.. (just exhaling hot air all over her body instead of kissing)..
 

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hey, nice job on the second outting :woo:

you're improving, which is nice...just go for that kiss close next time though.

i read the bible a while ago, but i don't remember it saying wait a whole week before calling a girl. imo, it's okay to call 2-3 days afterwards...you won't look desperate.

i think you're a bit concerned about seeming desperate, and that's okay...i used to be like this too...but you'll find a balance.

i think the best thing you can do is, instead of just getting her phone number...exchange numbers on the basis of a future meeting. like say, exchange numbers so that either one of you can call each other next few nights if there's something cool going down in town.

that way, if the girl is really looking for a booty-call, you don't have to worry about your friends telling her you called...she'd probably just give you a ring and make an excuse to see you.

keep it up :cool:
 
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