Field Report: The anti-alpha with money and power.

[The Duke]

''men need to stop defining "alpha" as a man who has money, power and access to attractive woman. A man can have all those things and still be a total faggot''

I read the above on another thread and was reminded of how I see this very same thing at a bar I frequent in an upscale section of town.

This bar I go to is a hidden gem in the middle of a very wealthy, upper class section of the city. In the parking lot you will see Aston Martin, Rolls Royce, and the occasional Ferrari. This bar is tucked away in a shopping village and most don't even know its there.

The place is always full of wealthy and powerful men but rarely will you find any that are remotely alpha amongst the bunch.

The 45-55 y/o men that hang out here show up with women half their age and far more attractive. Most of these girls appear bored and obligated because most likely they are being paid. The guys are always more into the girl than the girl into the guy. Its clear that these men have no clue what to do with these girls. By 11:30 these guys have realized they are out past their bed time and head home. By the end of the night the guy has 5-6 drinks and the girl might have had 1 or 2 and is still sober.

Another group of men I see are single and in their late 20's-mid 30's. Most don't know how to dress and are even more clueless with women. These guys have zero game and are basically non-existent. Its pretty common to see a guy buy a round of drinks for a table of women he has been eyeballing from across the room for the past hour. As always the guy would have more luck pissing into the wind.

Then you have the guys that show up with their girl. They are almost all inferior in looks to their girl. Very conservative in appearance. There is only one reason why an attractive woman hooks up with a guy like this! These guys are just as clueless as the rest and it would be very easy to lure their women away. These men are uptight and appear to be out of place. Their women are always looking around at other men.

I was with my girl but I did manage to lock eyes twice with a HB8 seated with her husband who had wandering eyes. The second time she noticed me staring she gave me that "i'd so like to fuhk your brains out" look. We both smiled. Had i been single I would have approached her at some point.

Wealth and power have little to do with being alpha. I see more alpha's at your average joe bars than I do here. The men who do have wealth and power and appear to be alpha are often just full of ego propped up by materialistic cahk extensions.

A veteran pua would clean house in this type of place. I wish I would have known about it when I was single. It would have been open season on all the 20something hb8's looking for a rich guy to latch onto and getting a little middle class Howiestern instead. Its the first bar I've ever been to where I thought I had zero competition.

 

[Solomon]

I wouldn't call this a field report more so an observation report but anywho OP you break something down real proper....

This report reminds me of this

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=210136

The Venue you mentioned OP tends to have high tier of hot women.

The reasonw why most PUA's don't go there is because "Flashgame" isn't gonna get that type of a chick. These women are truly the cream of the crop running up on these hoes and saying "Hey guys I have an opinon who lies more men or women...." will get you laughed out the venue. These women are smokeshows, showstoppers, model caliber women. True HB8's and HB9Game alone won't do it, you have to be that guy!

Also The enviroment doesn't usually allow for mass approaching because these places tend to be more laid back, even on a busy night like you said there is a lot of people watching so a guy who gets blown out a lot will lose his value. Whereas in a crazy club he can just hit up another set

I personally am surprised that there are so many chodes in your place. The venues I go to have tons of guys who are jacked, with hot chicks and their rich as well. It's like a scene from a hollywood movie. Even the old guys look like George Cloony.

But on the other hand I see guys who look totally Dorky with HOT SMOKE SHOWS these girls are dressed to the 6th whilst the guys looked like they just got back from Lake Michigan of a fishing trip

 

[Bokanovsky]

You can only be an alpha if you stand out from those around you. Let me say that again. You are only an alpha if you stand out from those around you. If you are a guy with a $20 bill at a homeless shelter, you might as well be an alpha. If you are a guy with a Ferrari at a bar full of other guys with Ferraris, you are just another schmuck. If you are a guy with a factory job in some dying rust belt town where everyone is unemployed, you are a catch. If you are are an average lawyer or investment banker in Manhattan, you are nothing special.

Most people hang out with their equals. And that makes them...well, average. If you want to leverage your financial means for the purpose of attracting women, you have to date those who are below you on the socio-economic scale. Of course, that has its own risks (i.e. being a target for gold diggers, divorce rape, etc.)

 

[CHICAGO27]

How many desperate housewives bonk the poor plumber? Money and status are dating aids but can't make you a true Alpha male.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

if MEN tend to look up to you and follow your lead, you are a natural alpha
no need to complicate it and have word games. women want money, position, status, looks or just a big weener for casual pleasure etc. that is ok and cool and fun, but has nothing to do with being alpha. it can help you feel more important or influential, and if you are a natural alpha, it will add to it, else you will only be a power/money abusing jerk. or if you are an afc, you will be an afc with money, and more women than the other afc.

one trait of the alpha is that he doesn't care about what is alpha.

i am kind of an alpha IN MY GROUP since i run a company, and when we go out, people tend to attribute some imaginary traits just because i am a "boss" type. women tend to pick up on this also, and i do profit from this setup . but when i go out with a different circle, i may or may not be the big kahuna, depending on the situation. it's just how it is. what i am NOT, is a guy who will put a girl on a pedestal, or chase really hopeless cases (challenges are ok), or one to give in in a LTR because of pressure of the poon. that doesn't make ma alpha of course, but at least i am no whiny white knight giving up identity for the hope of a future lay.

 

[slikkmeister]

This reminds me of the high roller room at the casino I go to... Plenty of gorgeous girls walking around while these chumps who throw away all their money trying to impress them... I usually end up here at the end of the night after a long poker session like 2-3am... I always get stares when I walk in because I look out of place, I could care less... I usually have at least 1 or 2 of these broads stare at me or give me the **** me eyes! I had some ****head call me out on wearing sneakers and jeans one night and I called him a homo. Long story short, I punked him in front everyone when it came down to taking a walk outside... and his wife and two other girls were practically drooling for me. Money don't mean ****. It's all about attitude! I walk in like I own the place and keep that vibe even if I lose! You can have all the money and power you want, but respect is worth 10 times more!!!