"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Field Report from FNG: need advice!!

Magma

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I could really use some advice here on what I could have done differently. Since I don't leave for work until Friday, I've had some days off. There's a local brewery here that is open from 4-8 everyday (weird state law) and usually has live music. I've been practicing some canned material and wanted to go and try it out at the "beer garage."

This presented a couple of challenges:
1) Bar game within day game, midweek
2) I was sarging solo
3) Live music is a good excuse to sarge alone, but it's considered taboo to try and PU because "we're all just here for the music" or whatever

So I decided to take my choppa down there because it adds to the bad boy image I'm trying to cultivate. I peacocked it up a bit (wristband, pearl button shirt, Oakley Gascans, studded belt) and headed down there. I walked in with a smile and a purpose, like I owned the MF'er. The first target I see is a little Filipino, maybe a 7.5/8 taking pictures of the band. We crossed paths and she smiled at me, giving me my first IOI. The three second rule reminded me to move in NOW. I walk up to her and say:

Me: You know, pictures of me aren't free.
She: (smiles) Really? Hold on, I left my handbag over by the bar. I'll be right back.
Me: You better.

I watch her walk over to where she said her handbag was and realize that she's there with some d-bag (AMOG? we'll see...) I give her a minute or two then I left. I felt this was the right move. But my plan was to come back about 15 mins later to the venue and demand that she buy me a drink for lying to me (a little AFC?). So I come back a bit later and walk right past her, not even acknowleding her presence. I'm stopped immediately by a blonde HB8.5 that I used to go to high school with and haven't seen in about 10 years. Luckily enough, she's standing right next to the target and AMOG (? still don't know about this guy) talking and what not. So I turn my back to the target and begin to try to spit some game on HB8.5 about how I'm training to become a professional soap box derby racer. We fluff for a bit and things are going really well with HB8.5, she's laughing and actually giving me a bit o' kino. My game was good I felt.

Just then HB8.5's friend walks up. She's about a 5 or 6. I get introduced to her and we continue to fluff for about another 5 minutes. All the while I'm thinking, "Chit, should I abort my original target?" Then I thought no, that I had to try and close the original target. Then I ask HB8.5 if these are her friends, as I nod to the target and the blocker. I felt this move was strong because the target had seen me gaming on this HB which gave me a little social value (right term?). Also, this might disarm the obstalce/AMOG. HB8.5 blew my plan when she said that she had only just met them. Damn. But I wasn't done. I tried out some good C/F on HB8.5 just because I had the opportunity and needed the practice on my delivery. It went well. Then I stopped her and said I had to go meet my buddy. I kino'd the 6 as I said "It was a pleasure meeting you" and got a positive response. I ignore the target as I leave. As I'm hopping on the scoot outside, I see her catch a glimpse of me and smile super big. She likes bikes.

So I take off again for about 15 mins to assess the situation while I catch some wind on the scoot. I go back this last time, spot the target sitting alone, and pounce.

Me: You owe me a drink.
Target: I knowwww. I'm sorry, but I got hung up. What are you drinking
Me: I don't drink and ride my bike.
Target: Yes, I saw your bike. Verrry nice.
Me: That piece? That's just my bar hopper.

Blammo!!! AMOG from out of nowhere sidles up, Seinfeld style. By this point, I'm sitting on the stool next to her. (Should I have re-positioned?) He gives me "the look." I felt that I needed to disarm this obstacle, so I got up and said, "So you know Jessie (HB8.5)?" He says, "No, we all just met her. I know Pilomina" and nods to my target. I said, "Right on. My name is (Magma). Nice to meet you." He said something about his name. I could tell by his body language that he was attempting to display alpha status.

Target: Hi, I'm Pilomina (sp? w/e)
Me: I bet I can spell it my first try. I took 2nd in the sixth grade spelling bee. I lost to Stephanie Taylor. But it's okay, she went on to become a doctor. (my attempt at a little C/F)
Target: (laughs) What's your name?
Me: (Magma). (Now at this point, I've positioned myself between the target and the blocker with my back to him.)
Target: What do you do?
Me: (Since the original HB8.5 was not friends with her I decided to recycle the pattern I used earlier) When I was 8, I wanted to be a clown. But now I repair cigarette lighters.
Target: (sincere laughter)

Just then, the obstacle in the form of AMOG goes right between us and sits down on the stool right next to her. He can tell I'm gaming, and he doesn't like it. Now this is all going down between band sets, and the next band is firing up, making it difficult to talk. I eject, tell them it was a pleasure to meet them, and take off.

Now, keep in mind that I'm just starting to game and have a lot to learn. I felt that I did a number of things right given my circumstances (recovering AFC, first real sarge using mainly MM, and sarging solo):
1) Approached immediately upon first IOI
2) When she didn't come back, I didn't track her down. But rather I left.
3) Upon return to venue, I attemted to open the set through (what I thought were) her friends.
4) Decent display of C/F.
5) Never faltered on my delivery and was strong and confident throughout.

These are things I think I did right. I would really appreciate any advice on how to handle AMOG's in this situation where I'm sarging solo. Also, general advice on my overall game/how to post a good FR would help a ton.
 

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Magma said:
This presented a couple of challenges:
1) Bar game within day game, midweek
2) I was sarging solo
3) Live music is a good excuse to sarge alone, but it's considered taboo to try and PU because "we're all just here for the music" or whatever
With these challenges I believe you did very well. Tough setting.

I liked the line about "pictures" showed confidence and humor. Instead of saying "you better" when she exited you could have dismissed her... "Take your time" or "I'll give you my agent’s #".

Not much you could have done with AMOG? One side of the fence says include him and the other says separate from him... In reality you have to do what you feel is right at the moment with that person.

I have one question about the other encounter. Why didn't you work more with HB8.5? And did you build up fugly friend ... I.E. (to fugly) Wow you look so good! Why didn't you help your friend get dressed? Than smile at HB8.5...

Great line about Soapbox Derby Racer!!!! I won't steal it but was thinking about it.

Like the re-approach. Like the line (Clown-Lighter).

AMOG really put the brakes on this one.

I don't know if this would have pushed AMOG over the edge, but maybe you could have offered her a short ride on the bike...

Over all I say Great Job! Didn't see to many NEG hits but didn't really see a reason either. Sounds like you got a good hold on your game. You can only get better with Field Time. Keep it up and Keep me Informed. Hopefully I have helped.

Oh... also liked the straight forward line about Not Drinking and Riding. Showed that you are Responsible which is a big + with the Ladies.

Sarge On!
 

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Aye good work - I would expect this type of report from someone who's been around the block a few times, not someone who's just starting out.

Nice work on the ladies, and you pulled good game. Shame about the guy blocking you else you might have got lucky.

only mistake I fealt you made was not playing the hb8.5 when it appeared she was interested. instead you went back to your 1st target who didnt come back when she said she would. Although you recovered real well after this with the chick, I wouldnt have been wasting my time on her.......

keep going - you'l be stealing the girls in no time at this rate.
 

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Awesome. Thanks guys! You know, I really felt that I should have changed my primary to the HB, but **** was just happening so fast (as it does) and I felt I should stick with the original primary to try and close proper. The deeper it got, the more I wanted to finish strong. Guaranteed, in the future, I will not make this same mistake again. Each sarge gets me one step closer to a new reality. Great advice Zero and Pectoralis. Hope you don't mind more field reports in the future. I'm going up into the mountains solo for a couple days to clear my head and work on my inner game. I should have another report early next week.

One thing I want to add is that I was really proud of going waaaay out of my comfort zone. As I ejected from the set, I literally got tunnel vision and felt like I was going to pass out. But it was soooo sweeeet. Better than any high, no doubt. Again, thanks for the advice guys. On we sarge...
 
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