"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Not so much blind any more though, rocking lenses occasionaly :rockon:

Important parts start in bold paragraph.

A friend ( lets call him Bob) told me (Wednesday) about this live concert( Friday 20-07) at nice pub I visit ,and that I should come see his new gal and meet his crew.

During friday the gf ( Lets call her Sonia) who broke up with him hits me up to go to that concert lol, like thats gonna work, he's there to make her jelly not the other way around :crackup: .

So I arrive around 10 PM going to the counter to grab a beer, and then seek my friends and on the way there I'm already greeted by Bob and another guy( lets call him John ) I know from before so we grab the beers and meet up with the others.

There is another unexpected guest( lets call him Teddy) I met on my matrial arts a couple of months ago, says he's throwing a party tomorrow(Sat 21-07) and that I should grab some booze and come. I'm game.

So Teddy and Bob introduce me to the crew. Nice bunch.

But lets fastforward a bit towards midnight.

Sonia meets me with her friend( lets call her Alex) she's a cutie, we first met last summer and met her accidentaly during that time on mutual friends birthday once and then during some other party. Thing is I never took her number :crackup: ( she was taken back then and later I tought she was with another guy ( and still is ) but it turns out its just her orbiter so its a green light for me. Had a little talk with both of them took her number and there was something along the lines of her making a filmwathcing session for her friend at her house ( 21-07) so I said sure I might come, we'll see. Took her number and then I went to chat with other people as she about to leave.


Teddy's gf came to pick him up with car so we decide she should give us a lift to grab some beers and just drink them near the pub. He takes the front seat . take oneof the back seats then there is that chick (ets call her Katherine ) in the middle and John. We couldnt get the seatbelts on ( yeah bad I know) but the shop was just around the block on the small streets.
As we go though curves we lean on each other and I have this funny smile about it while I look at her she laughs so I tickle her a little and we talk.

We get back to the pub entrance sit on some concrete slabs and enjoy our beers and conversation ( Me, John, Bob and his gf ,Teddy and his gf, Katherine, the chicks from the crew from the beggining and some that arrived in the meantime. It was around 1 or 2 AM at that time so the live bands packed up.

Bob and Teddy leave with their gfs some of the rest stays some don't. I chat Katherine up, turns out she lives a 5 minute walk from me and close to my summer job, I get her number. Its getting cold outside so we get back indoors ( Me, Kath, John and some chick he was talking to.

So we sit down.

Chill and talk. I do some more kino and she seems receptive so I just ramp it up little by little until I'd get a no. Get my arm around her waist as we talk ( four of us ) . I don't remember if it was then or a bit later that I looked her straight in the eyes with a smile and she was smiling too so as I tilted my head forward a kissed for a brief moment. A moment later she suggested we switch sides. Im like wut ? :confused: turns out what she had in mind was



So we all talk, I kino her belly and hands later a bit on the hips.
John starts making out with that chick which gives me and katherine and incentive to do so as well instead of sitting awkwardly :D.

I later smell her hair and neck a bit, she asks what am I doing, I tell her she smells nice. Her response: You smell like soap. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I'm as puzzled as you but I guess its better then you smell bad :crackup: I was confused for a bit but I just rolled with it. As she wiggles on my lap I kiss her once more.

Its 4 am now, closing time so we get on the station which is just outside and get on the train ( 4 four of us in the same direction ). Its our stop, bid john and lady farewell and leave. Since I know aproximately where she lives, I say that I'll walk her home since its not much of a detour. As we part I say It was nice meeting her and I kiss her goodbye. ( im not sure i said ill contact her, if so i didnt specify the time ).

During the night she suggested I come to some birthday ( also in that same pub) tomorrow ( 21-07) . I mentioned that we should hang as a group at my "land" lol idk how to translate it ( there is a valley near the forest which the government gives to people where they rent it for 30-40 years for dirt cheap) and get a bbq + campfire going on sunday (22-07), I believe John was up for it so we could gather up a bunch and have fun.

So that makes it three places to go the same day :S

I'll probably go to teddy's since, I don't know they guy at the bday and my gut says I'd feel like a chump If I phoned her that early AND to enquire about that party, the film night with Alex seems nice although im not that enthusiastic about it so I'll probably just go with the house party, since its a sure bet for a nice evening.


Tips, comments, analyses MOST WELCOME, also don't mind on taking advice bout my next moves. :eek:

I contribute this to booze, sosuave community, and nofap challenge.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should've at least attempted to go up to her place and bang...assume, ask, or sneak all work (e.g. can I use your bathroom before I hit the road?) gets you there, a goodnight kiss in her place allows "accidents" to happen if she has an ASD
 

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Was thinking about that, tho shes 19 and lives with her parents :S but I guess opportunity not taken opportunity lost . ASD whats that ?

And thanks for the input.
 
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