"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Field Report - BF destroyer help perhaps?!

AFC_UK

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DJs I need some advice!

I'm new to 'The Game' and have recently come from a 3 year relationship and moved to a new part of town were i know few people.

So the night starts where I met a girl the other night in a bar (HB7), she was looking over to me from across the bar and our eyes met a few times but I was too engrossed in conversation with others before I could go up and open. Anyhow when I got the opportunity I went up and opened indirectly to her through some AFC (when I say AFC, he was more AFC than me) blah blah conversation. Anyway we got talking and basically struck out the AFC within a minute but felt bad because it seemed obvious that I was hitting on her. So gave the opportunity for him to pass comment at times etc even though he pretended to not be listening to our conversation...yeh I'm a *****. Within this conversation she told me she’s got a boyfriend... :mad: I asked how is that, does he buy you flowers and dinners all the time and treat you like a proper lady etc?! She replied "no we argue a lot, thankfully we don’t live together... so it's ok but thats maybe why it works?" They’ve been together 4 years on and off.

Story is I left her and went to chat to other people but later when we caught up she gave me her number and said that I really ought to go out with her and her friends some time.

The day after I dropped a casual text at midday asking if she made it to work. I left before her but I was pretty drunk! She replied within 20 mins and said yes but she went on elsewhere etc.

The night I met her we discussed about meeting two days later. I didn’t or couldn’t seem to have found a way reply to her last text. Anyway four hours later she texts me asking if I was going out the night we were talking about. I replied an hour and a half later (8PM) saying say yes and apologised for the delay in replying (bad move) and joked about where she went after that night. She replied the day after at midday and said something to the words like "cool see your tonight. It’s at XXXX right? I replied 10 mins later confirming the place and saying it shud be a good night.

Ok so I was there talking to the bar/club manager and I think she walked in with some friends, wasn’t too sure as I didn’t totally recognise her to be honest! Then I moved to talking to two girls and three other group of guys at different intervals, not many girls there at the time! I think about an hour or so passed and didn’t really acknowledge her being there. Anyway later on I was talking to a mutual friend whilst she wasn’t there and moved on to talking to her for once. (Sure I could have played this out better...)

I was talking to her friend more at this stage (HB8, but also taken) I was asking about HB7s boyfriend about their arguments and it seems like they get on really well and don’t argue *confused* a male friend of hers the other night also confirmed they were solid. Super confused...

As I was talking to the mutual male friend, HB7 was blocking me out - back to me being blatantly obvious (even though we got on really well). I really think she knows how to 'Game' guys because to me what she is doing is not natural and since I have read up a bit on the game recently I can see shes doing some of the opposites to whats expected... Just earlier on I caught HB7 trying to teach HB8 how to flirt etc and said, "Hey you can't flirt, you’ve both got boyfriends!" HB7 replied (memory doesn’t serve me correctly) but she said it doesn’t matter or doesn’t mean I can’t flirt or have fun, some sentence to that effect. Later on I saw HB8s phone with a pic of her BF - ugly mofo tbh - been together 7-10 months she doesnt even know! Later on HB8 was saying to HB7 that I would be a great 'match' for her flatmate.... Hmmm.

At the end of the night I walked them both to the station (going in same direction). At a few times HB8 was saying you should definitely come out with us more. I, being an AFC declined in some way (Didn’t want to rock up to a club on my own to meet them!) At the station as she parted ways hugs/kisses and all that jazz she asked again for me to go out with them in the future. Then I was alone with HB7 - on the same train. More intoxicated than before but able to hold a conversation! She asked also to meet 2moro. Anyway her stop arrived and left - no hugs or even a kiss:mad:

I text her 5 mins later and asked if she arrived home safely and that the evening was good etc. she replies instantly saying she’s in a cab and will text as soon as she’s home. She did text to say that herself and HB8 were home ok and she asked if I was home also. To which i replied somehting like yes, when i text u i was home. (God I sound like a complete douche after typing this to you DJs now!)

Anyhow the following day I text her (the night they said I should go out with them) as I leave work saying I'm going out for dinner - I think its near the place where they intend to go clubbing.

Text read: "I'm going out for dinner in XXXX (location, not restaurant) this evening. What time u going out?"

To which I have no reply as yet, 6 hours later. To be perfectly truthful I have no idea why I did not get HB 8 phone number. I’m sure the alcohol might have a part to play in this. Perhaps a part of me thinks I would rather them be girlfriend material but still cant understand how i didnt get HB8s number. Perhaps i set my goal to be HB 7 already.

I’m sure there are other details that I’ve neglected to add but either way I screwed up!

Thoughts on my chances with HB7 or HB8 at present?! Obviously i have a lot to learn!!!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Credos

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Dude, chillax... You're so overanalyzing this stuff...

You know one thing that many AFCs tend to forget when they are out there? To have some fun and stop worrying so much about getting laid... Especially if she has a BF...


1)Stop wanting to get ***** so much, women can smell the stink of agenda like sh*t on your shoes. Just have some fun
2)Prove you're excellence: show her you're not a loser but that you're good at something, that you got ambition, dreams, hobbies...
3)Once you done the previous: Pull away... that's what push and pull is all about, you show them a bit of yourself, then you go back... If they really like you, they'll come back beggin for more attention...

To explain step 3 here' a visual image:
Give a 5 year old kid 3 bars of candy, once he ate the first one up, take away the last 2. The kid will start crying and do whatever he can to get the 2 bars of candy back.

Attention to women is like candy for kids :), they'll do just about anything to get it, if they know they like it...


The rest of what you should be doing is all on this site
 

blueline

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You destroy the boyfriend simply by being better than him and offering something he can't. Women jump from guy to guy all the time. If you were better looking than him (maybe you are) AND offered something else, she would already be yours. A cheesy line like "Great. That way somebody can keep you entertained while I'm busy" will only display a superficial confidence that some girls eat right up if they already find you physically attractive.
 
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