"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Field Report 2: Time Constraint and Abundance

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I had to work a good game to get this girl HB6.5 out on a date while I was working other prospects as well. In the end she asked me out for a drink.

Key notes:
- I was present in the moment, kino is really just clockwork to me right now.

- Lots of reciprocation and caressing

- At one point I put her arms around me and pressed her into me, c0ck semihard

- Rejected my kiss mid date twice (She turned her head up and said 'Nope' with a slight smile)

- Ended off with a hug, asking me to text her when I get home. Which obviously I'm not going to do.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She just read the latest cosmo blog about "Ten ways to get and keep him hard, be hard to get!" and is playing bs games in an attempt to peak your interest and see how far you will let her play.

If I was in that situation I'd withdraw my attention, slightly.
 

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Konada:

First, respect for having the balls to go for the kiss twice mid-date. Herein is the most important DJ attribute.

It may surprise you to know that my ex-wife rejected my first date kiss attempt, and my current gf who is an ex-playboy model (yes, I did get back with her) rejected my first-date kiss three times.

Conventional DJ wisdom and other "gurus" will tell you if she rejects your first-date kiss, she is not interested. I can tell you unequivocally this is not the case. Here are seven reasons why a girl may reject your first date kiss:

1) She is not interested in you;
2) She comes from a traditional or religious background where first-date kisses are not customary;
3) She is not yet comfortable with you;
4) You projected a significant player vibe, so ASD is at its height;
5) She is game-playing;
6) She doesn't want you to view her as "easy";
7) She just doesn't kiss on the first date.

This is not to be confused with a girl who rejects your first-date kiss as automatically interested, but rather that she is not automatically disinterested.

What to do at this point? Text/call her and ask for the date.
 
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Konada:

First, respect for having the balls to go for the kiss twice mid-date. Herein is the most important DJ attribute.

It may surprise you to know that my ex-wife rejected my first date kiss attempt, and my current gf who is an ex-playboy model (yes, I did get back with her) rejected my first-date kiss three times.

Conventional DJ wisdom and other "gurus" will tell you if she rejects your first-date kiss, she is not interested. I can tell you unequivocally this is not the case. Here are seven reasons why a girl may reject your first date kiss:

1) She is not interested in you;
2) She comes from a traditional or religious background where first-date kisses are not customary;
3) She is not yet comfortable with you;
4) You projected a significant player vibe, so ASD is at its height;
5) She is game-playing;
6) She doesn't want you to view her as "easy";
7) She just doesn't kiss on the first date.

This is not to be confused with a girl who rejects your first-date kiss as automatically interested, but rather that she is not automatically disinterested.

What to do at this point? Text/call her and ask for the date.
I'm more interested in 4) since I'm triggering alot of 'So how's your tinder experience so far?', 'Do you bring alot of girls here often? You seem very sure of yourself.'

I just reply "I don't kiss and tell."
 
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