Field Report#11 : Date with Indian girl at Mcdonalds

[Ryan]

1) The Girl

• 20 year old
• Type-->> Indian FOB (yeah I have a thing for indians), thick indian accent ---> just graduated
• Looks: 6.
• Conservative: Never had a bf before, never been on a date before, never kissed a guy before

2) How we met

• Standard routine..we matched on Tinder (she was just trying out Tinder), then I escalated to text
• As soon as she told me she is leaving for india for a few weeks , I realized I should set up a date
• So since we were texting late last night, I messaged her "I have suprise for you", and decided to call her:

The conversation was ok (still not as smooth as I would like to be over the phone, wayy smoother over text), I stuttered a bit, and then was like ok let me pick you up after work, we'll get tea for a bit. She was like ok, but assumed she was going to flop (like most girls), but she actually followed through with the date today --> Sent me her address and told me to pick her up from work at 21h30 (I like indian girls!! I should go visit india lol )



3) The date

So first thing I tried to remember the "suggestions" from previous FR: dont hold hands, dont act desperate etc.

• I show up 5min late (I'm always rushing for dates), we were looking for a tim hortons but all the tim hortons on the gps did not actually exist so we did drive around a bit.
  
• We pull into a Mcdonalds--->> Order food, I pay (its only a couple dollars), but interesting while I pulled out my wallet I noticed she started fumbling around in her bag to pay.
• Wierd how she insisted on carrying her backpack with her everywhere (instead of leaving it in my car)
• The lineup was long, so we sat down in a booth, I sat next to her (learnt that from mystery) and we just had general conversation : cricket, what kind of job she wants, she spoke about her brother, where she likes to shop , I made a few jokes and she laughed.....she also mentioned how much she owed me for the chicken burger, I retorted "forget it"
• I also noticed that I offered to share some of my fruitopia with her, but she mentioned she doesnt like soda (which fruitopia is not)
• Since she is conservative etc....I decided not to be too aggressive: After a while, I did put my arm around her (but not touching) -->> she didnt put up any resistance, (also someone here told me I was being too sleazy in on my FRs when I put my arm around some girl on the first date)
• After a while, she said lets go, I immediately got up and we walked to my car , opened up the car door for her, and she remarked "thats so cliche" lol , I replied back "im old fashioned"---->> How would of you replied? We got in the car, I start programming the GPS and ask her what her address is, she gives it to me, we drive back. On the car ride back she asks me how many girlfriends I had in the past, I reply " actual relationships or just hookups?" , conversation included, her joy for cooking and dancing, we also talked what an ideal marriage partner would be like, I delivered my "my wife would be like my best friend, and we would keep each other in check and grow together etc" line (let her think I want a relationship, not a fukboy lol)
• Back at her place, we sat in my car in the parking lot, I made a mental note to mention to her that she should go to sleep (she has a big day tomorrow), but in the car we talked some more: job hunting strategies, gifts she bought for her family, then she said "when I come back after a month, Im not sure if we will still see each other" I replied "thats fine " (displaying indifference etc)
• I started rubbing her neck ross jeffries style (girls love this), and then I dont know how we got to this, but I said "just pretend Im an indian guy", "hello can I be your bf?!" in my best indian accent, and head bobbing ---> she replied "this is only the first date" but she was laughing at my impersonation (yeah I know it was lame ...I will lose points for this...but it was one of those moments where I didn't think before speaking) . I then suggested "its getting late, you should go sleep you have a big day tommorrow" , but she kept talking lol ....
• Anyhow, I kept escalating....hormones kicking in, I lowered my arm below her shoulders,I asked for a hug, she said she has never hugged a guy before (yeah Ik sheltered conservative indian girl), "Cmon there is a first for everything"............and then I leaned in for the hug, "Hmmm you feel nice like a teddy bear" she said "No I am fat" to which I replied, "no you are not" , she retorted " yes I am thats why I have to jog"

At this time I was close to her face (of course I had on good cologne), and was thinking I should go for the kiss, did the triangle kiss prep trick....then she muttered "I know what you are trying to do" (yeah another girls said this before lol) ...and I said what this? and leaned in kissed her ...she didnt put up much resistance.

• Then like an idiot I pulled back and apologized "Im sorry didnt mean to go so fast", she also for some reason apologized and said she has never kissed a guy before. Then she said she should go...

4) Aftermath

• Who knows? I feel she will flop after coming back after a month but I dont care....lots of matches on tinder, bumble.
• She hasn't messaged me as of this point, but I plan on wishing her for her trip tommorrow.

Ok so rate and critique?

Please if you haven't gotten laid in the past three months, dont bother replying.

Thank you for your time. If you need anymore information just ask.


Aside: Oh btw I have a PIG coming over tommorrow, and good chance I will penetrate

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What I did well:

• Listened well
• When she said "I dont think we will see each other when I come back from India" I handled it well by saying 'thats fine" (?)
• Took the risk of escalating near the end to kiss her (her first kiss ever)

Mistakes I committed:

• Asking her to be my bf, (even though I faked an Indian accent and it was funny)
• Apologizing for kissing her.

What I will do next time:

• Initiate the ending of the date (at mcdonalds)
• Dont rush to the date next time, get there calm and relaxed
• Dont apologize after kissing.
• Try to tease and play more
• <<please add>>

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[AJ84]

I don't think you did much wrong.

But let's look at her behaviour:

Going to back to India
Never kissed a guy
Asking you about your experience with girls
Was ok with a date to MacDonald's
Was on tinder.

What I think and would bet on is that she's an Indian girl from a strict family who is going to India for a month (probably to get set up with some guy her family found for her) and she wanted to test drive a standard issued non Indian guy and experience a western girl gone wild moment before committing to a traditional Indian marriage, but chickened out in the end.

There's a potential niche here for you, however, with girls like her, because I bet there are lots of first and second generation girls from strict cultures who want to have the wild girl experience before marrying a suitable man from their own culture. Guys from other cultures do this all the time and now we are seeing girls do it. 2018

 

[RangerMIke]

If you like Indian girls you are in luck. In my experience Indian girls LOVE non-Indian men. I have dated three in my life and they were awesome... One came from a wealthy family, but our age difference (18 years) and the fact I was not Indian, caused a lot of trouble for her family... at the end of the day she liked her family money more than me... I don't really blame her since I was NOT going to commit to her anyway. Another is a Doctor that lives on the West Bank... we still see each other off and on, she's one of the ones that wanders off then comes back... it's been a few months if she hasn't settled into a relationship, I should be hearing from her again soon. The third works in my office building, she is Muslim and we had to keep things secret from her family... that just got too stupid, so I broke sh!t off. All were great. But you should avoid making generalizations with Indian chicks, because they are not all the same. Depending on what part of the sub-continent they are from, their attitudes will be completely different... and the differences are stark.

To answer your questions:

What to do if she makes a snide comment when you open the door for her. As with ANY sh!t test a chick throws at you you should not let it bother you and make a joke about it. The same thing happened to me a month ago when a chick I was on a date with said, "You don't think I can open my own door?" My response: "Well I'm sure you can... but I don't want you touching my car door." Then you smile. Now she is either going to get all bent out of shape and go all feminist on you, or she will take the hint and start joking around with you. In my case, she became a pain in the @ss, and I ended the date. Mostly chicks will respond favorable to joking around, but if you find one with a bad attitude, it's best to find out sooner rather than later. If it is a situation when you are opening a door for her, not your car... and she says something about it... then just say "You can open the next one for me." And just leave it at that.

What I think you can do better, is building an emotional connection... while she is talking, listen for things you can build honest rapport with, but don't make it obvious, then lead the conversation to that topic.

I thought you did well on your date... the problems you had you already know. Based on your recollection of how the date went, I would also add that a VERY strong suit you have is that you do a GREAT job of paying attention and listening. This is the hardest thing form most dudes to learn with chicks, so you don't have this as a problem. Don't talk too much about yourself, ask her leading questions and let her sell herself to you.

Good luck.

 

[NSX-R]

This must be a thing about the people around india . Most of them won't allow you to fck them till you marry them first .

I have met 2 Indian girls in my life. One of them was very attractive and picked her up . The other was attracted to me , i know because she said so .

Anyway if don't fck a chick at least in the 3rd time we meet then it's bye bye from my part . Here is the thing with both of them . They didn't want to get fcked or at least have sex before marriage.

Some time ago , i was chatting with 2 indian women (never saw them in person) one was living in US and the other in UK . Again both of them told me they don't want to have sex before marriage.

Ok , this is not something bad , those women treasure their purity and want to give it to the man of their lives. But how can you trust a woman when she's saying that ? .

The ex gf of my best friend . They had such a great connection. That's what my best friend said . His gf didn’t want to have sex with him before marriage. My best friend was serious about her . But guess what . She was getting banged by not one or two but three guys at the same time . Really?

I hear all these stories about how untrustworthy women are and that they always end up with some garbage guys , you don't know how to proceed anymore. It's like being in the casino . If you play the right number you might win but you never know which one is the right one and how much you have to invest .

 

[wifehunter]

 

[Ryan]

Second time a girl says " I know what you are trying to do..."

Whats a smart comeback for this?

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[Ryan]

What I think you can do better, is building an emotional connection... while she is talking, listen for things you can build honest rapport with, but don't make it obvious, then lead the conversation to that topic.



Good luck.

Everyone has a topics that they love to talk about and will talk about for hours, no matter how they feel or even if they hate you.

I always try to guage that when I am with people. The challenge is determining what it is with limited conversation.

Thats why before dates I look at FB profiles, Instagram etc....so I get an understanding.....most women its travelling.

 

[skinnyguy]

The Indian impersonation was funny

Why did you apologize??

This girl is down to go on a date at McDonald’s? Marry her

The guy above me is right. Pretty much every Indian girl wants a non Indian guy. You should go for the lay.

Actually, many Indian girls don’t settle for suitable Indian boys anymore. My own sister married a white guy. This is 2018- Indian chicks can do whatever they want. Tons of Indian parents now approve of white guys. Doesn’t really matter to me cause I’m still having fun gaming Latinas

 

[flowtheory]

I didn’t think it was a real thing that peeps went to McD’s on a first date.

 

[Von]

I didn’t think it was a real thing that peeps went to McD’s on a first date.

He's probably in high school.

I lay 2 indian chick's (Brown and stuff).. They were nice.

You just have to be smooth (they wont show affection in public and they want a strong leader)

 

[Ryan]

The Indian impersonation was funny

Why did you apologize??

This girl is down to go on a date at McDonald’s? Marry her

The guy above me is right. Pretty much every Indian girl wants a non Indian guy. You should go for the lay.

Actually, many Indian girls don’t settle for suitable Indian boys anymore. My own sister married a white guy. This is 2018- Indian chicks can do whatever they want. Tons of Indian parents now approve of white guys. Doesn’t really matter to me cause I’m still having fun gaming Latinas

I watched russell peters a millions, times I told her "My name is Raj...please be my girlfirend" and I did that head bob thing that indians like to do... but yeah even though it was funny....b/c I do a brilliant indian accent....it still showed weak frame (please by my gf)

Your indian? from which state?

 

[Ryan]

He's probably in high school.

I lay 2 indian chick's (Brown and stuff).. They were nice.

You just have to be smooth (they wont show affection in public and they want a strong leader)

Yep Im in my mid thirties......definitely still in high school mate.

I wantd to go to tim hortons but couldnt find any open...so the first thing we saw was MCds (read the OP)

 

[Murk]

"That's so cliché"

"Shut up and get in the car"

You did better on this one, but needed a bit more aggression - you told her to go sleep, she stayed = she wanted something = hard escalation on her. You pulled out of the kiss and apologised... you should have kept kissing and let some hands wonder, this may have been a different field report completely.

Reach out when shes back and go for the lay, but be prepare to be messed around and never to receive a lay. Use her as practice, don't expect much from this.

 

[Knight of Roses]

"That's so cliché"

"Shut up and get in the car"

You did better on this one, but needed a bit more aggression - you told her to go sleep, she stayed = she wanted something = hard escalation on her. You pulled out of the kiss and apologised... you should have kept kissing and let some hands wonder, this may have been a different field report completely.

Reach out when shes back and go for the lay, but be prepare to be messed around and never to receive a lay. Use her as practice, don't expect much from this.

Agreed,

You did better on this one, but definitely need more aggression. I concur with Murkserious on his recommendations. And don't ever apologize for being a man.

 

[Ryan]

So as I mentioned she will be back in town in a few weeks, I currently message her a few times per day on whatsapp....

soooo is that too much or should I just message her every other day until she comes back?


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[Ryan]

Right now I am just messaging her once a day on whatsapp....


@Amante Silvestre

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@logicallefty @VladPatton @sph21 @Alvafe @Mauser96@Julian @JohnChops@Mazer @Desdinova @sph21@MidnightCity @deesade @guru1000 @Dash Riprock @ubercat @Murkserious @Poonani Maker @NSX-R@bradd80