field question

[hypnotic4oru]

Hey guys,
Ive been out in the field for quite some time but have only started approaching chicks recently with a little help from gwm.
and continuously pushing myself to do it. What i find is i can consistently open chicks even groups of chicks with little to no fear as now im used to it.

However im running into a number of problems.
I usually approach about 15 chicks every time i go out. And ive noticed that only about 2to 3 in 10 actually will be nice and by nice i dont mean talk i mean they wont start to be *****y. what ive noticed is a large number of chicks either ignore me completely (which is better than being *****y) or are extremely *****y (in an aggressive im going to kick u in the balls kind of way)

So far ive done about 100 solid direct approaches using the gunwitch method opener, "hi how are u doing, its busy in here isn't it? are you from around here?" and i havent even got a single woman talking to me for more than a minute. Either they ***** and i leave.

Or they ignore me and leave.

Or they talk just enough so they can walk away.

I can understand why women u approach on the street may be wary of a guy hitting on them. But i usually hit on chicks in malls.

I guess my main problem right now is actually getting her to continue the conversation with me and not leaving.

Do you guys have any suggestions??

Thanks DJs
Craig

 

[spider_007]

sounds like you'r missing something in your game............

 

[GrimPhallic]

Alright dood you need to loosen up. Smile and use some kind of non verbal language first to see if the girl you are approaching is in to you at all. What I do (and it works 90% of the time) is make eye contact once, and then wait several seconds and do it again, but smile at her the second time. If she smiles back at you THEN approach. If not then she is not interested. If you dont make her feel confortable with a smile or something first than she will feel invaded (you really should read the old school stuff in the bible it helps). Also try making the first thing out of your mouth a coment on her. I dont mean compliment, I mean something like "you look bored." I always use sarcastic humor myself because I am good at it and I have found that it is the BEST way to start convo with a chick. Kinda funny but also I have notice that they always start convos with me using the same technique. Anyway also check your appearance and compare it to the suggestions given in the bible.

 

[GrimPhallic]

Also you are questioning them way to much. I try to steer away from questions and get answers from them by using comments. Here is a true story from about a month ago:

This is with an HB9 at the YMCA. We exchanged checkin each other out so I look for something to comment on and find she is wearing pink flip-flops to work out in... So I wait till she goes to the water fountain and I make my move to 'get a drink'...

ME (behind her): So do you always work out in your pink flip-flops?
HER (turns around and gives me some excuse on why)
ME: Oh I see. Well I like a girl that can come to the Y and work out in her flip-flops. That shows personality in a wierd way I guess right?
HER: Yea I have a great personality.
ME: Really, thats awsome, if youre lucky maybe I will look into that. Im Austin by the way.
HER: Oh yea Im Brook. So where are from around here?
ME: Deltucky
HER: Where???
ME: Deltucky, you know Delaware, OH.
HER: (Laughed and said she never heard it called that before).
ME: Yep I graduated college and decided to move out here
HER: Where did you go to school and blah blah blah it was so obvious she was into me because she was fvcking questioning me. So I closed with the number line b!tch give me yer # so you can suck my c0ck. No but thats what happened.

So I usually stay away from too many questions. I pull alot of info from comments. My game is pretty good and smooth though. You have to work at it. Some advice to ya, if you want practice with it, approach the shy decent looking chicks. You can always tell them because when you are checking them out they get all weird. But anyway yea so I hope I helped you out a bit.

 

[al77]

So far ive done about 100 solid direct approaches using the gunwitch method opener, "hi how are u doing, its busy in here isn't it? are you from around here?" and i havent even got a single woman talking to me for more than a minute.

No wonder. Look:
1. You start with how are you doing... which is not really necesary, especialy since you ask more questions later... she is not going to anwer that. So what is that use?, I guess "Hi" would be enough.

2. "its busy in here isn't it?" - I am sure it is not adequate to the situation: if it is not busy, she can see you are BSing... and that makes her ... well nervous.

3. "are you from around here?" Well.. the first thing she may think is "Why the heck you ask? are you a stalker?". You gotta tie down this to some other relevant info later.

Conclusion: it is better to try somethig else, for example commenting on somehting around you. "Hi! Where did you get these nice red boots? They are cool!"

 

[xblitz44x]

You're in the middle of a mall. It's weird. Whether the community wants to accept it or not, being approached at random like that is strange and almost scary. There may be a few girls that are friendly and therefore won't shoot you down immediately out of self defense because of the threat you pose, but they will be few and far between.

Try meeting people elsewhere. Coffee shops, bars, parties, BBQs, etc. Places where it's NORMAL to approach and make conversation. From time to time you'll notice great opportunities to meet people at the mall, but they will happen by coincidence and not by you hunting them down "in the field". You're forcing it, it's coming across as spooky. That's your problem.

-Blitz

 

[hypnotic4oru]

Thanks fo the great advice guys. I am starting to get the picture
of why chicks are weirded out sometimes.
However many of you guys have suggested using an indirect opener and i am an advocate of being direct about what you want right from the start. I know it may get you more rejections but i has a better closing rate as someone on this board has recently pointed out.

So do u guys have any advice for improving my approach using a more direct method? So that the chicks wont get weirded out.


Thanks DJs
Craig

 

[tim_n]

Re: Re: field question

Originally posted by al77
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3. "are you from around here?" Well.. the first thing she may think is "Why the heck you ask? are you a stalker?". You gotta tie down this to some other relevant info later.

Conclusion: it is better to try somethig else, for example commenting on somehting around you. "Hi! Where did you get these nice red boots? They are cool!"

lol - I find 'are you from around here' works quite nicely. Commenting on her red boots would probably come across as either quite femine or a shoe fetishist.

Only kidding :- ) whatever you feel comfortable with & don't make compliments you're not sincere with!

I'm off to do some stalking...