Female obsession with desire

[Bingo-Player]

A lot of attractive women learn from a young age attention and desire can be manipulated to their will and its an ultimate source of power

They usually hate other attractive women because not only are they competition, they know the game and can't be manipulated

This is the basis of why women are so b1tchy and almost instantly hate other women , if another woman poses any sort of threat to the flow of attention and desire

its also why the dread game is so effective with women wether a man uses it directly or indirectly ,

Women literally cannot stand the thought of another woman stealing the attention and desire they worked so hard for and will do anything to retrieve it

This goes in relationships, social circles the workplace look closely and you will always see it.

Now how can we as men leverage this to our advantage !?!

Well first of all a hot woman knows she's hot telling her this is just feeding the beast a tiny snack that will ultimately disappoint her desire

You can use a neg and hit her ego, but I fear modern women have such high opinions of themselves most will get very salty these days

My favourite lever is to devalue her beauty , you do this by playing down her physical appearance , and playing up the enviroment or others around you

If you are in a group setting point out how funny or charming another woman has been , point out how comfortable someone made you feel , comment how some women all look the same these days

When she realises that your not appreciating HER and HER BEAUTY , she will likely start working harder to get desire / compliments out of you

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

This is a good thing to discuss. It is generally very true as you say, but such tactics find greatest success with insecure women who may be uncertain of her value beyond her looks.

But you are correct, women are terribly competitive and are often selfishly seeking the spotlight for themselves. It isn't just in social environments either. I have actually been fired several times over my career (most recently last August) by women who were insanely envious of me and attention I attract by being who I am. Add the looks, the confidence, and the trappings (I dress very well and drive an elite car and am well connected)....its really crazy.

I prefer working with males. Men are so much simpler to work with. Cool women are fine too, its just a much bigger crapshoot than with guys.

I think the best way to get the typical (insecure attention seeking) woman to be intrigued by you as a man is to spread your attention across several women and be least predictable/most reserved with the gal you fancy most.

Women are like cats....ignore them & they get curious if they want your attention.....

This is a more advanced, more nuanced aspect of the game. But if you, as a man pay attention to the covert way women broadcast....you'll see it.

 

[Sega Genesis]

But you are correct, women are terribly competitive...

I agree BE, I think many women will compete for and chase a man they desire but certainly not all.

I can't imagine you (for example) ever having to compete with other women or chase a man you desire. I know I never would. No matter how much I desired him.

Or were you only referring to insecure women who blatantly chase after external validation? If so, then I don't disagree with that.

Talking with men including my dad and brothers (and boyfriends), there will always be that one woman who stands out from the rest, leans back and allows nature (his nature/her nature) to take its natural course.

She doesn't force, chase or compete. She simply allows things to happen and gracefully moves on when they don't.

Reminds me of that show 'The Bachelor' wherein 20+ women are competing for the same man. Ugh. It's not surprising to me when the Bachelor always falls for (or at least most intrigued by) the woman who opts out of that nonsense and chooses to leave on her own. Good for her.

I actually knew a women who competed on an earlier season. She said it was one of the most debasing experiences she's ever had!

I have actually been fired several times over my career (most recently last August) by women who were insanely envious of me...

I always thought you worked for yourself BE but anyway I hear ya!

I have never been fired by a woman for being pretty but I've not been hired by a female because of it. I was even warned beforehand- "Don't waste your time even interviewing, she won't hire you, you're too pretty."

Anyway I agree about insecure women; problem is there are soooo many beautiful insecure women seeking external validation that men have been conditioned to assume all women to be and thus proceed to employ the same tactics on all. As per what @Bingo-Player posted.

Which can backfire if a woman doesn't fall into that "beautiful insecure woman seeking validation" category.

I always think it's best to pay attention and judge women individually before employing such strategies or tactics.

Learn to read a particular woman's signals properly and fine tune your BS meter.

$.02

 

[The Duke]

I haven't found a woman yet that didn't get at least a little insecure inside her relationship with a guy she feared losing.

And yes this stuff works, the trick is knowing how much. The more insecure she is, the less you need. I use this stuff from time to time to keep them in line.

My very secure exwife once asked me if she needed to lose weight and I told her If I wanted a fat girl I would have found one to start with. She needed to lose 20lbs. so she got really serious about working out and got in good shape. Things were great until she started getting compliments from others and got hooked on the attention. I also began giving her "too much" attention in the form of photographing her which boosted her looks ego. Next thing you know she is banging some dude she worked with.

My current girl gets insecure when she see's my ex's post on my family members social media and that plays to my advantage. She see's them as a threat to her world. She knows those girls would like to get back with me. I just sit back and let it play out, best thing is I don't even have social media. The minions are doing all the work for me. lol

 

[sevbucmash]

can backfire if a woman doesn't fall into that "beautiful insecure woman seeking validation" category

None feminine women.
"I'm beautiful and powerful" category.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I agree all women can feel insecure at times, whether inside a current relationship or outside of one. I certainly do!

What matters (imo) is how she chooses to handle her insecurities. Does she know how to self-regulate her emotions and self-soothe? Or does she rely on you (or any man/men) to soothe her anxiety and provide the external validation and reassurance she so desperately needs?

That's what's key; feeling insecure at times is human and normal.
..

 

[BaronOfHair]

@BeExcellent "But you are correct, women are terribly competitive and are often selfishly seeking the spotlight for themselves"

Everyone wants to be The Mac

 

[BeExcellent]

You are correct @Sega Genesis I do work for myself, but I have clients and must work within the client organization....

You are also correct that I lean back, relax, and let things come to me in the realm of relationships. I was taught by my wise granny to choose from men who are choosing me, and to NEVER chase a man. So I have operated that way a long time.

Beauty was not emphasized at all in my house growing up, intelligence, achievement, and emotional stability were. So I figured out much later how much power beauty weilds (and did not rely on it).

I will say it can be a double edged sword. Men are also aware that other men are interested in their woman, and there are ways to deploy the same, shall we say "management tactic" to keep mental bandwidth tied up in a man.

I've done it simply by responding "I alteady have plans" at times in dating situations, whether or not I actually had plans and whether or not those plans involved another man was frankly immaterial. Sometimes non response works just as well. It gets the mind spinning. The more insecure a person is, the more they wonder.

People fall in love with the fantasy of the person before they come to love the real person. So a mysterious person creates or at least allows space for that to happen....

 

[The Duke]

You are correct @Sega Genesis I do work for myself, but I have clients and must work within the client

I will say it can be a double edged sword. Men are also aware that other men are interested in their woman, and there are ways to deploy the same, shall we say "management tactic" to keep mental bandwidth tied up in a man.

What does a woman do with a man that can't be "managed", controlled, manipulated, or influenced by any tricks she may have in her bag? Asking for a friend. ;-)

 

[Bokanovsky]

This is a good thing to discuss. It is generally very true as you say, but such tactics find greatest success with insecure women who may be uncertain of her value beyond her looks.

Virtually all modern women are insecure. They are obsessed with looks and status (as your own post demonstrates).

 

[sevbucmash]

What does a woman do with a man that can't be "managed", controlled, manipulated, or influenced by any tricks she may have in her bag? Asking for a friend. ;-)

Baby trap that son of a *****!

 

[BeExcellent]

Lol you guys are funny. I like nice things & like to look nice, but I do those things for myself, and because my man likes the way I present myself.

To think an individual can escape fully from matters of presentation is foolish and simply not reality.

So it is more about the mindset behind the presentation (attention seeking is different intent than appropriateness and confident intent.) This is the nuance I am referring to. Kate Middleton or Melania Trump dress appropriately and confidently. Not for attention seeking. The intent is what matters....

But you cannot see intent. You can only see behaviors, and must read or derive the intent. Nuance folks.

@The Duke there are no such men. Why else do Muslim cultures mandate extreme modesty? Because they seek to control natural female allure.

Just as you posit there are no females who are entirely immune, my position is that men are not immune either....

 

[Bokanovsky]

To think an individual can escape fully from matters of presentation is foolish and simply not reality.

So it is more about the mindset behind the presentation (attention seeking is different intent than appropriateness and confident intent.) This is the nuance I am referring to. Kate Middleton or Melania Trump dress appropriately and confidently. Not for attention seeking. The intent is what matters....

But you cannot see intent. You can only see behaviors, and must read or derive the intent. Nuance folks.

I'm fairly certain that Kate Middleton and Melania Trump do not make anonymous posts on online message boards telling random strangers that they are very good looking and drive an "elite" car.

 

[Gamisch]

I somewhat agree.

Somewhat because in this world of stupidity most people interpret things literally all the time. ( now dudes lose good opportunities because they try to be distant for no reason type ****e)

And offourse there will be cases where and when a compliment is the right way to go BUT IME OP does have a point..

Right now I'm dealing with an absolute beautiful woman, and yet I hardly ever mention her beauty. Yet she seems to work for me, my validation towards her and just the thought of losing me breaks her apart.

And she gets compliments on a daily. It's crazy how this works. Perhaps my bitterness somehow naturally keeps me from going in too hard and too eager, and she seems to like that balance or something.

 

[BeExcellent]

I'm fairly certain that Kate Middleton and Melania Trump do not make anonymous posts on online message boards telling random strangers that they are very good looking and drive an "elite" car.

Well my avatar is me....but people don't always believe that either (shrugs).

I am who I am. Whadaaya gonna do?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Well my avatar is me....but people don't always believe that either (shrugs).

I am who I am. Whadaaya gonna do?

Call out B.S. when I see it.

 

[BeExcellent]

Call out B.S. when I see it.

Except it isn't my dear. Never was, never will be. We know where you stand and that's fine.

 

[sevbucmash]

Well my avatar is me....but people don't always believe that either (shrugs).

I am who I am. Whadaaya gonna do?

Obviously you like DG2 by Diane Gilman Classic Stretch Sequin Skinny Jean

 

[Bokanovsky]

Except it isn't my dear. Never was, never will be. We know where you stand and that's fine.

Sure. It is totally normal for a 57 y.o. married woman with children to hang out on a dating advice forum for men and to obsessively write about how good-looking, desirable and successful she is. This does not sound like attention-seeking behaviour of an insecure person even in the slightest. Carry on.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Virtually all modern women are insecure. They are obsessed with looks and status (as your own post demonstrates).

Not all but yes a high percentage but this is a wider societal issue rather than just a female one , society places far too much value on female beauty and sexuality throughout history it always has done and I fear probably always will do

"wars have been started over women"

Iran war a cover up for trumps shenanigans with under age women on Epstien island !?! ...... very probable

I would argue its incredibly perhaps the primary driver of all of humanity , Men build and create sh1t to ascertain status and power which in turn is used too attract and facilitate sex with beautiful women in their circles.

A hell of a lot of movies and tv shows seem to have this narrative constantly running through them too

women compete amongst themselves for that desire or they sell it too the highest bidder

Prostitution the oldest profession in the world ?

The worst part about all of this even though we understand its ridiculous we haven't found a way to ascend past it

In 2026 we are still bound by our hard wired desires to either lust after beautiful women or go to extreme lengths to try and sleep with them

I'm hoping age may enlighten me further but I'm mid 30's now and I look at men both younger and older and there seems to be very little divergence from this trope