"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Female Iowa fan: "drunken, adulterous bathroom sex at football game ruined my life"

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This story is almost a month old, but I'm posting it because I haven't seen it posted here (it should be seen by all men, as it provides a near-textbook example of female sexual shenanigans and post-nuptial rationalization):

Des Moines (Iowa) Register: "Hawk fan says bathroom sex scandal "ruined my life."

Drive and Dish: "Female Iowa Fan Travels to Road Game, Gets Drunk, Has Extra-Marital Sex With Stranger in Men's Room Stall, Places Blame on Husband"
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Meet Lois Feldman. Mrs. Feldman, from Carroll, Iowa, is an Iowa Hawkeyes fan who traveled to Minneapolis, MN, with her husband to attend a football game between her beloved Hawkeyes and the Minnesota Golden Gophers. Unfortunately for the Feldmans, things didn't exactly go according to plan, as University of Minnesota campus police caught a very drunk Mrs. Feldman having sex with a stranger in a men's room stall at the Metrodome.

Now Mrs. Feldman is complaining that the incident has ruined her life; she lost her job as an administrator at an assisted living facility, and she has become the most famous cougar/cheating wife in Iowa. Interestingly, Mrs. Feldman seems to think that she bears no responsibility for her skanky behavior at the Iowa vs. Minnesota game. In fact, she's placed the blame on everyone but herself.
Basically, Mrs. Feldman got really drunk at the Iowa/Minnesota game and left her husband behind to watch the game (and keep her seat warm) as she found some random stranger inside the stadium and hooked up with that stranger in a men's room stall. Then when she got caught by security, she blamed, pretty much, everyone but herself for her "mistake" (of course, she sees herself as a "victim").

Best of all, Lois Feldman's husband is being "supportive" of her (he sees her as a "victim" too).

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Classical Values discusses whether the law would judge Lois Feldman to be a rape victim if she were to file a rape case against the guy she hooked up with in the bathroom (in some states, the law most certainly would).
 

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LostAndConfused said:
I like what the second article said about the phrase girls use nowadays "I was drunk so it didnt count."

What has this world come to.....
Apparently, Lois Feldman's husband liked that phrase too. It seems like he's buying the argument.

The "I was drunk, so it didn't count" excuse is a close cousin to "I don't usually do this kind of thing," "I never do what happened last night," etc.

Once you've been around enough girls, you begin to notice just how many girls "don't usually do" the kind of stuff that they do all the time.

I think it has two distinct effects on guys:

1. You begin to realize that most of the ego-boosting benefits of your past conquests may not have really been all that impressive after all. You probably were not, in fact, so unbelievably, awesomely special that otherwise prim and proper girls were left so utterly powerless in your presence that they couldn't help but cast their strongly held standards to the side in fits of carnal passion (caused, of course, by your uniquely awesome awesomeness).

What's more, when she told you that she doesn't normally do the kinds of things that she did with you (which caused your ego to swell), she was playing you for a fool. She figured that you were clueless enough to believe her (just like all the other guys have), and that she could game/control you vis a vis the ego boost you would get from her assertion that she couldn't help but break her own rules because of your charms.

2. You realize that girls will go to the ends of the Earth to rationalize their behavior -- particularly slutty behavior. And you stop putting stock in much that they say.

* Also note, the by protesting that they don't usually engage in that kind of behavior, females implicitly acknowledge that their behavior is slutty, and that it isn't a good thing. Otherwise they would say something to the effect of "I sleep with who I want to sleep with, and I don't care what people think!"
 

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As i sat on the edge of my bed half naked after Fing this chick i met at the club the night before, listening to her lie to her upset boyfriend about where she was and why she never came home, i was amazed at her callus attitude.

AFter she hung up the phone she said to me - "He is so damn insecure all the time, its not like i cheat on him or anything" She really believed what she was saying and at that moment I concluded what i had long suspected... Womens' reality is made of pure fantasy, deception and irresponsibility..

NEVER EXPECT LOYALTY FROM ANY HUMAN...
 

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This is a little tangential, but here goes:
I'm not sure it applies in every state, but I do know that if a sober man has sex with a drunk woman, he can be charged with rape. There have been cases in which girls have gotten really drunk and had sex with guys. Then they woke up the next day not remembering what happened and realized they had sex. Some men have ended up doing some serious time because of this.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DonGorgon said:
As i sat on the edge of my bed half naked after Fing this chick i met at the club the night before, listening to her lie to her upset boyfriend about where she was and why she never came home, i was amazed at her callus attitude.

AFter she hung up the phone she said to me - "He is so damn insecure all the time, its not like i cheat on him or anything" She really believed what she was saying and at that moment I concluded what i had long suspected... Womens' reality is made of pure fantasy, deception and irresponsibility..

NEVER EXPECT LOYALTY FROM ANY HUMAN...

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Thanks for the chuckle man

I needed a laugh...
 

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DonGorgon said:
As i sat on the edge of my bed half naked after Fing this chick i met at the club the night before, listening to her lie to her upset boyfriend about where she was and why she never came home, i was amazed at her callus attitude.

AFter she hung up the phone she said to me - "He is so damn insecure all the time, its not like i cheat on him or anything" She really believed what she was saying and at that moment I concluded what i had long suspected... Womens' reality is made of pure fantasy, deception and irresponsibility..

NEVER EXPECT LOYALTY FROM ANY HUMAN...
This is BEYOND TRUE!

I'm in 2 MLTRs, one of which is with a woman who has a real BF. I've been having sex with her about 9 months now. She has said very similar things to me before. She'll be like, "he's always asking me where i am. I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE CHEATED ON HIM! It's not like i'm some hor!" And how's this one? He found out about me and that she had had sex with me. So he knows that she did. Yet, he allows her to say that she's never cheated on him to his face... and he doesn't disagree... it's almost as if both of them don't want to believe that she actually cheated on him...
 

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Damn, society is getting at its worse.....sad, sad, sad!!
 

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I'm in 2 MLTRs, one of which is with a woman who has a real BF. I've been having sex with her about 9 months now. She has said very similar things to me before. She'll be like, "he's always asking me where i am. I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE CHEATED ON HIM! It's not like i'm some hor!" And how's this one? He found out about me and that she had had sex with me. So he knows that she did. Yet, he allows her to say that she's never cheated on him to his face... and he doesn't disagree... it's almost as if both of them don't want to believe that she actually cheated on him.
Wow...are you serious dude? That ****ing discusting. WOW WOW WOW....dumb ****ing hors.

DUMB!!!!!!!! God help me not turn into a women hatin bastard. :up:
 

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Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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If you had a skyscraper with low quality women on the bottom with the quality getting higher with every floor, these cheating nutcases would be in the underground car park.


They are low quality have no standards and live in a dream world where they do what they want and in their mind convince themselves it was nothing or not their fault.


Always avoid low quality women and women who make excuses instead of taking responsibility.
 

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What the FVCK, do the girls in these stories actually believe what they're saying? Did you call them out whilst they were chatting balls?
 

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slaog said:
If you had a skyscraper with low quality women on the bottom with the quality getting higher with every floor, these cheating nutcases would be in the underground car park.

They are low quality have no standards and live in a dream world where they do what they want and in their mind convince themselves it was nothing or not their fault.

Always avoid low quality women and women who make excuses instead of taking responsibility.
i don't know of any women that won't cheat if the right set of circumstances and words occur... thinking otherwise is setting yourself up to get crushed by one... i just don't care anymore, hence why i stick to MLTRs instead of LTR.


shaunuk said:
What the FVCK, do the girls in these stories actually believe what they're saying? Did you call them out whilst they were chatting balls?
in my case - no. i have no reason to pull her out of that reality she's in. i honestly believe she somehow believes that she's not cheating with me. if i pulled her out of that reality and told her the truth - i don't see how i benefit from it one bit... i'll let her live in that fantasy land, as long as she keeps fullfilling mine... i judge her by how she treats me; and she treats me like a god (and her bf like a piece of sh!t)
 

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i don't know of any women that won't cheat if the right set of circumstances and words occur... thinking otherwise is setting yourself up to get crushed by one... i just don't care anymore, hence why i stick to MLTRs instead of LTR.
I know plenty who won't cheat... my family members, cousins etc etc. It's just not something thats even thought about.


I'd imagine if you were brought up in an enviornment where you see alot of cheating then it starts to become normal. People see it on TV, see there friends doing it and it's always there in peoples minds.


If you think about cheating you're far more likely to cheat or attract a cheating girl.
 

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Lol slaog, do you really believe that. Everyone thinks their family, gf etc. is different. You can never be sure.

About stuff like that not even being thought about it your home,...how would you know? I doubt cheaters discuss it with their cousins, uncles, parents whoever.
 

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slaog said:
I know plenty who won't cheat... my family members, cousins etc etc. It's just not something thats even thought about.


I'd imagine if you were brought up in an enviornment where you see alot of cheating then it starts to become normal. People see it on TV, see there friends doing it and it's always there in peoples minds.


If you think about cheating you're far more likely to cheat or attract a cheating girl.
how do you know they won't cheat? family members put on their best mask for their family most of the time. there's fathers who think their 19 yo daughter is a virgin, and she may be very good at acting like it - meanwhile, she lost his virginity when she was 12...

i don't speak from an envirnment i came up in... as far as i know - nobody in my family cheated on each other (that doesn't mean they didn't; just that i'm not aware). But i've yet to find a woman in a relationship that was stale (this is key) who wasn't interested in cheating... they're almost easier than women who are completely single...

if you don't think she could cheat on you - you're far more likely to be oblivious to it when it happens.
 

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There IS a sliver lining here...

Judge a woman by her actions and never her words.

I'm not surprised by the husband's response though. AFCs are dime a dozen everywhere.

That is why we have to be Real Man so that when we enter the scene, women's panties all over the vicinity immediately melts.
 

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The Bat said:
There IS a sliver lining here...

Judge a woman by her actions and never her words.

I'm not surprised by the husband's response though. AFCs are dime a dozen everywhere.

That is why we have to be Real Man so that when we enter the scene, women's panties all over the vicinity immediately melts.
Learning to judge a woman by her actions rather than her words is one of the most important things a guy can do. But it, obviously, doesn't just hold for women. It applies across the board, as guys b.s., lie, and rationalize bad/selfish behavior all the time too.

I think the difference is that, for whatever reason, society applies different standards to women than it does to men. We tend to look at men with a natural skepticism. Society (both women and men) is always just a little suspicious of guys. Thus, we're more inclined judge men by their actions than by their words. We don't hold women to the same level of skepticism.

Simply: men are held accountable, women are not. Remember, in "As Good as it Gets," when Jack Nicholson's writer character is asked how he writes women so well, he answers, "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."

One point of contention, though: AFC's may be a dime a dozen, but I don't think it's a good thing that so many guys blindly accept womens' b.s.

The husband from Iowa got punked by his wife in a major way. He shouldn't be so accepting and "supportive" of her. After all, if anyone needs "support" right now, it's probably him. He could definitely benefit from the support of family and friends who have his, and his kids', best interests in mind. His wife sure as hell doesn't have his, or her kids', best interests in mind. When she got drunk at the football game and ended up getting nailed in that bathroom stall, she was looking for fun, excitement and attention. Now she's looking to save face -- not her family's face, but her face.

But here's what gets me: I don't think the AFC husband is an anomaly. Maybe in the old days, guys wouldn't have tolerated a drunk/cheating wife. But I've seen so many (modern) guys put up with that kind of b.s. over the past 10 years or so that I think it's probably becoming the norm.

And that's not a good thing at all, no matter how good it may make you, me, or any other "real man" or "Don Juan" look by comparison.
 

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