Female interviewers are proof women should t be in positions of power.

[Mike32ct]

I have to disagree because toxic female bosses tend to be focused on one thing and are more avoidable. Toxic male bosses want to be the insecure alpha male and take it out on you when the wife isn’t giving any or his female boss is pressuring him. In addition, the guy will always prioritize fresh new pvssy or his bros over you.

The one guy boss I had was nice to the women, but he treated the guys like total shyte.

The women bosses I’ve had have more or less treated men and women the same.

 

[SW15]

Toxic male bosses want to be the insecure alpha male and take it out on you when the wife isn’t giving any or his female boss is pressuring him.

I had an insecure short man for a boss once. Your comment is spot on about him.

In addition, the guy will always prioritize fresh new pvssy or his bros over you.

How relevant is that in the working world?

I have to disagree because toxic female bosses tend to be focused on one thing and are more avoidable.

What's that one thing?

The one guy boss I had was nice to the women, but he treated the guys like total shyte.

I can imagine this happening if some Beta Bob simp is in middle management or upper middle management depending on the company.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My god every female interviewer I've had is such a ****. Genuinely. And it's cause they think they are above me. We all know how women act when they think they are above you they start acting vitchy cvnty, and generally awful. I shudder thinking on if Kamala Harris got voted in as president.

My first job out of HS was as as a security guard at SFO. My Chad Friend got me set up for the job interview. It was with the company HR person, a woman in her late 20’s.
The interview was a joke and I was hired on the spot.
I mentioned this to my Chad friend. He laughed and said ‘She only hires good looking guys.’

 

[Barrister]

Both sexes have the capability to be horrible bosses. Arguably for different reasons. But yes - the natural power dynamic is completely off when a woman is ordering around a man unless he is missing some hardware downstairs.

 

[SW15]

the natural power dynamic is completely off when a woman is ordering around a man unless he is missing some hardware downstairs.

The natural power dynamic is lacking when a male subordinate has a female direct supervisor.

While I have had passable interactions with some female supervisors, I didn't enjoy the reporting relationship as much and I didn't like the emotional labor involved.

The previous sentence is written in the most general terms. A male subordinate - female supervisor relations also depends on the organization as a whole and its culture. I can't cover every scenario that exists.

It's easier for me to report to a male direct supervisor. It's true that there are awful male direct supervisors, such as the insecure short man I mentioned above.

 

[GoodMan32]

I had one female interviewer cut me short asking me like two questions. This was a job I knew I had on lock due to the first interviewer. I was told I didn't get the job and emailed the first interviewer what happened and how they could reject me off two questions was plausible. I got the job after the email.

Women shouldn't be interviewers nor should the ne position of power. They view the world not through meritocracy but through their own emotions.

I was interviewed by a woman for my current job (and the interview went well, she was impressed by me, I didn't have to do something like what you did to convince the employer to give me the job, etc)

I'm not painting all female interviewers with a bad brush. That being said, off the top of my head, I'm unable to think of any bad male interviewers. Which isn't to say I haven't had bad male bosses.

I have a couple of different roles at work. My bosses are both middle aged women. One of my bosses thinks I’m the greatest thing since sliced bread. The other remembers how I was when I was single. And she is no fan.

Even though my current direct boss is a man, his boss (which is also one of my bosses) is a 26 year old woman.

I've talked to the 26 year old female supervisor about some of my struggles with the opposite sex. While she doesn't know just how much baggage I have, she knows enough she can deduce I'm a few sandwiches short of a picnic in that area. Yet in spite of all that, she's a big fan of me.

 

[GoodMan32]

No I haven't all my hire ups have been men. I've had women coworkers and even then I can see how their emotions and most of all their ****ing EGOS make them so difficult to work with

My job, which I've been at for 6 years, has had lots of structural changes.

I currently report directly to a man.

My first direct boss in this company was a woman, however (not the woman I got interviewed by though). My first boss here could be extremely trivial (for example, if you so much as asked her a question of whether she'd like you to do a certain thing, she'd sometimes think you were questioning her ability to lead)

Eventually she transferred to another department. Rumor has it she was forcibly transferred to another department because of what a bad fit she was to lead my department (Which is very telling. Deep down, she probably knew she was a terrible manager, hence why she was super sensitive about any perceived insults toward her leadership ability)

After my first boss was transferred to a different department, I ended up with another female boss. This new female boss was a piece of work. She was extremely anal about rules. As a result, a lot of employees (including men) were terrified of her. She was on a major power trip. She seemed to take joy in knowing that, despite being a short woman, she was capable of scaring men $hitless. Her tenure as my boss lasted less than a year. She ended up getting forced to resign because it came out she was having an affair with a guy who had a low-down leadership role in another department, yet ultimately reported to her. Go figure the woman who was the biggest stickler about rules turned out to be the biggest rule-breaker of all.

 

[Redwood]

I have to disagree because toxic female bosses tend to be focused on one thing and are more avoidable. Toxic male bosses want to be the insecure alpha male and take it out on you when the wife isn’t giving any or his female boss is pressuring him. In addition, the guy will always prioritize fresh new pvssy or his bros over you.

Not the majority of the time.

 

[SW15]

Are all of you avoiding the early stage HR interview with some female HR rep? No one has talked about this stage of the interview process. HR reps are nearly all female.

In an HR type interview with a female, I will throw in some seduction type verbal game as a part of my answers. A lot of interviews with an HR rep are about vibes/feelings. That's emotional labor too.

 

[SW15]

My job, which I've been at for 6 years, has had lots of structural changes.

On the surface, that's impressive to be with the same employer for 6 years in this era. However, the job pays shiit (you said this in another thread) so it is less impressive when considering that.

My first direct boss in this company was a woman, however (not the woman I got interviewed by though). My first boss here could be extremely trivial (for example, if you so much as asked her a question of whether she'd like you to do a certain thing, she'd sometimes think you were questioning her ability to lead)

Eventually she transferred to another department. Rumor has it she was forcibly transferred to another department because of what a bad fit she was to lead my department (Which is very telling. Deep down, she probably knew she was a terrible manager, hence why she was super sensitive about any perceived insults toward her leadership ability)

Sounds miserable. She didn't interview you and it seems like you were assigned to her.

She's lucky that your company was big enough for an internal transfer. In smaller companies, she would either have been terminated or she would have quit for another job.

After my first boss was transferred to a different department, I ended up with another female boss. This new female boss was a piece of work. She was extremely anal about rules. As a result, a lot of employees (including men) were terrified of her. She was on a major power trip. She seemed to take joy in knowing that, despite being a short woman, she was capable of scaring men $hitless. Her tenure as my boss lasted less than a year. She ended up getting forced to resign because it came out she was having an affair with a guy who had a low-down leadership role in another department, yet ultimately reported to her. Go figure the woman who was the biggest stickler about rules turned out to be the biggest rule-breaker of all.

Even worse than the first.

This company seems like an awful place to work. Two consecutive bad bosses.

I've talked to the 26 year old female supervisor about some of my struggles with the opposite sex. While she doesn't know just how much baggage I have, she knows enough she can deduce I'm a few sandwiches short of a picnic in that area. Yet in spite of all that, she's a big fan of me.

If you two weren't tied together through a workplace, the dynamic between you two would be different.

While she likes you as a worker person, she would never give you the time of day in an approach, leisure time setting.

This is a good example of how intersexual dynamics in the workplace differ from intersexual dynamics outside the workplace.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

My job, which I've been at for 6 years, has had lots of structural changes.

I currently report directly to a man.

My first direct boss in this company was a woman, however (not the woman I got interviewed by though). My first boss here could be extremely trivial (for example, if you so much as asked her a question of whether she'd like you to do a certain thing, she'd sometimes think you were questioning her ability to lead)

Eventually she transferred to another department. Rumor has it she was forcibly transferred to another department because of what a bad fit she was to lead my department (Which is very telling. Deep down, she probably knew she was a terrible manager, hence why she was super sensitive about any perceived insults toward her leadership ability)

After my first boss was transferred to a different department, I ended up with another female boss. This new female boss was a piece of work. She was extremely anal about rules. As a result, a lot of employees (including men) were terrified of her. She was on a major power trip. She seemed to take joy in knowing that, despite being a short woman, she was capable of scaring men $hitless. Her tenure as my boss lasted less than a year. She ended up getting forced to resign because it came out she was having an affair with a guy who had a low-down leadership role in another department, yet ultimately reported to her. Go figure the woman who was the biggest stickler about rules turned out to be the biggest rule-breaker of all.

Yes. Again I'm not trying to go all **** women here I'm not. But women in positions of power are awful people. How do I know this? Be in a relationship Ina girl and lose frame and give her the power. See how she treats you like DOG **** breaks up with you and ****s with your mind.

 

[SW15]

But women in positions of power are awful people. How do I know this? Be in a relationship Ina girl and lose frame and give her the power. See how she treats you like DOG **** breaks up with you and ****s with your mind.

Intersexual dynamics in the workplace are different than in romantic relationships. There's some overlap though.

Both middle manager and upper manager females can be awful people. Females in both of these layers of management are more likely to be awful than decent.

 

[GoodMan32]

On the surface, that's impressive to be with the same employer for 6 years in this era. However, the job pays shiit (you said this in another thread) so it is less impressive when considering that.



Sounds miserable. She didn't interview you and it seems like you were assigned to her.

She's lucky that your company was big enough for an internal transfer. In smaller companies, she would either have been terminated or she would have quit for another job.



Even worse than the first.

This company seems like an awful place to work. Two consecutive bad bosses.



If you two weren't tied together through a workplace, the dynamic between you two would be different.

While she likes you as a worker person, she would never give you the time of day in an approach, leisure time setting.

This is a good example of how intersexual dynamics in the workplace differ from intersexual dynamics outside the workplace.

Yep, the first boss I had when I started at this company was merely assigned to me. I never saw her (or even knew of her existence) until HR brought me downstairs to introduce me to my boss after my onboarding session on day one.

As for the 26 year old female supervisor I currently have (even though she's not my direct boss), you're right, if we weren't forced to interact through work, there's no way she'd give me the time of day, even if she were single (which she's not; I will address that topic a bit later in my post).

That's why when a woman only knows a man through a work setting, sometimes the woman fails to comprehend why the man struggles so much with dating (as he has no problem talking to female coworkers). As you pointed out though, there's a huge difference between intersex workplace dynamics vs intersex dynamics in a leisure setting.

Circling back to the topic of my 26 year old female supervisor's relationship status, not only is she married; her husband works for a different department in our company. Her husband used to be a big fan of me. He then became colder with me. I'm pretty sure I know why. Even though I've never come out and told him or her that I'm attracted to her, they can probably both sense it (on a peripheral note, he also might dislike how I talk to his wife about relationship stuff)

Intersexual dynamics in the workplace are different than in romantic relationships. There's some overlap though.

Both middle manager and upper manager females can be awful people. Females in both of these layers of management are more likely to be awful than decent.

The female boss I had a while back at this company who took joy in the fact a lot of male underlings were scared $hitless of her (and had an affair with one of the few men who wasn't afraid of her) had a husband about 20 years older than her (whether her and the husband are still together after the affair, I have no idea). Anyway, there's a reason I mention the age gap. With what a horrible person she was, I wonder if the reason she ended up marrying a man way older than her was because hardly any man her age or younger would tolerate her as a partner (except for as a short-term casual sex partner, like the underling 10 years younger than her she had the affair with)

I also wonder why it is that a lot of female bosses are terrible people. I wonder if something about managerial jobs attracts a toxic woman? Or if they become toxic after being given power?

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

Intersexual dynamics in the workplace are different than in romantic relationships. There's some overlap though.

Both middle manager and upper manager females can be awful people. Females in both of these layers of management are more likely to be awful than decent.

I don't think so. There is always a power dynamic in every relationship. Especially romantic. Women want a man to have the power and men feel the most powerful when they do (obviously). Most divorces happen when the man becomes simp and gives the power to women. This happened to me multiple times with girls I'll admit it where I gave her the control and Sought her approval.


In the interviewer frame the frame is already set. Why should I give you this job? And if a woman is in that position she's basically in the position of choosing from dudes in her dm. N

 

[SW15]

I wonder if something about managerial jobs attracts a toxic woman? Or if they become toxic after being given power?

Women who prioritize careers end up in managerial roles after a certain amount of time. Women who prioritize careers are generally toxic women.

That's why when a woman only knows a man through a work setting, sometimes the woman fails to comprehend why the man struggles so much with dating (as he has no problem talking to female coworkers). As you pointed out though, there's a huge difference between intersex workplace dynamics vs intersex dynamics in a leisure setting.

A good portion of women in corporate, white collar work environments are married women and often married women with children. There are some childless careerist types, but they are less common. There are plenty of instances where an unmarried, childless man will be interacting with a married woman (often with children) in a workplace environment. They often come from different worlds outside of work.

While it's possible for an unattached man to get introduction to possible dates through his co-workers, it happens less than one would think. This is because a lot of the corporate married women are friends only with other married women (or divorced single moms) and has no one in her social circle that would be a good fit for an unattached, childless man.

Most divorces happen when the man becomes simp and gives the power to women.

Most men become more beta over a long term relationship. This can lead to an unhealthy dynamic.

In the interviewer frame the frame is already set. Why should I give you this job? And if a woman is in that position she's basically in the position of choosing from dudes in her dm. N

If she's the hiring manager, then that's true. If she's simply just some HR rep screening in 1st round interviews, then all she's looking for is someone who meets qualifications and isn't socially awkward.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

Women who prioritize careers end up in managerial roles after a certain amount of time. Women who prioritize careers are generally toxic women.



A good portion of women in corporate, white collar work environments are married women and often married women with children. There are some childless careerist types, but they are less common. There are plenty of instances where an unmarried, childless man will be interacting with a married woman (often with children) in a workplace environment. They often come from different worlds outside of work.

While it's possible for an unattached man to get introduction to possible dates through his co-workers, it happens less than one would think. This is because a lot of the corporate married women are friends only with other married women (or divorced single moms) and has no one in her social circle that would be a good fit for an unattached, childless man.



Most men become more beta over a long term relationship. This can lead to an unhealthy dynamic.



If she's the hiring manager, then that's true. If she's simply just some HR rep screening in 1st round interviews, then all she's looking for is someone who meets qualifications and isn't socially awkward.

Yes I agree with that but my interviewer was a higher up. Keep in mind a lot of women would behave like this given power. This is why they were kept under control and it was always a KING then a queen.

 

[Redwood]

Yes. Again I'm not trying to go all **** women here I'm not. But women in positions of power are awful people. How do I know this? Be in a relationship Ina girl and lose frame and give her the power. See how she treats you like DOG **** breaks up with you and ****s with your mind.

Got a point. But a lot of dudes are picking this trait up by the numbers.

In my view, both men and women are doing this at the same rafe.

 

[plumber]

I had one female interviewer cut me short asking me like two questions. This was a job I knew I had on lock due to the first interviewer. I was told I didn't get the job and emailed the first interviewer what happened and how they could reject me off two questions was plausible. I got the job after the email.

Women shouldn't be interviewers nor should the ne position of power. They view the world not through meritocracy but through their own emotions.

you passed the test, you followed up assertively. they did not want a person that will get discouraged at first challenge. Over a lifetime the best situations I had resulted from following up and not giving up. just the opposite of dealing with women.

 

[GoodMan32]

Women who prioritize careers end up in managerial roles after a certain amount of time. Women who prioritize careers are generally toxic women.



A good portion of women in corporate, white collar work environments are married women and often married women with children. There are some childless careerist types, but they are less common. There are plenty of instances where an unmarried, childless man will be interacting with a married woman (often with children) in a workplace environment. They often come from different worlds outside of work.

While it's possible for an unattached man to get introduction to possible dates through his co-workers, it happens less than one would think. This is because a lot of the corporate married women are friends only with other married women (or divorced single moms) and has no one in her social circle that would be a good fit for an unattached, childless man.



Most men become more beta over a long term relationship. This can lead to an unhealthy dynamic.



If she's the hiring manager, then that's true. If she's simply just some HR rep screening in 1st round interviews, then all she's looking for is someone who meets qualifications and isn't socially awkward.

Superb explanation of why it's rare for female coworkers to give social circle introductions to single male coworkers.

There's one other possible explanation I thought of. Even though the female coworker says she doesn't get why the dude struggles so much with dating, deep down there's something about him that makes her want to keep him away from any single female friends of hers (In other words, she's saying it without saying it: "You're a great guy. You'll totally find your right woman eventually...but not with any of my friends")

I totally get why most men would become more beta over the course of a long-term relationship. The more a guy becomes settled into a relationship, the less incentive he has to assert himself as an alpha in the dating market (whereas a guy who's either single or trying to hold onto a woman he only recently secured has lots of incentive to act alpha)

I suppose I lucked out when interviewing for my current job (in the sense that even with my social awkwardness, I managed to get past the female HR rep's interview screening). There's always the possibility the interview wasn't long enough for the HR rep to pick up on my social awkwardness (or since I'm a college graduate who was clearly more than qualified for this job, which doesn't even require a degree, she might have let my social awkwardness slide, especially since we don't have any in-person contact with clients, and barely even any telephone contact with clients, in my role)

 

[SW15]

Superb explanation of why it's rare for female coworkers to give social circle introductions to single male coworkers.

Thank you. Most female co-workers aren't capable of providing introductions for the reasons mentioned above.

I have changed employers numerous times over the years. I've been able to see this phenomenon in multiple organizations.

There are penis carousel riding females in various organizations but I've never had a female co-worker I interacted with regularly who was one of these never married, carousel rider women. Penis carousel rider single women are outnumbered in most workplaces by married women with children and unmarried women in multiple year long LTRs.

There's one other possible explanation I thought of. Even though the female coworker says she doesn't get why the dude struggles so much with dating, deep down there's something about him that makes her want to keep him away from any single female friends of hers (In other words, she's saying it without saying it: "You're a great guy. You'll totally find your right woman eventually...but not with any of my friends")

It's possible this can happen, but I think it is less common.

If this were to happen, it would be an indicator of the man being too beta and his female co-worker perceiving none of her friends would be interested in him long term. The co-worker can sense that her friends would ditch him after 1-2 sexless dates and she doesn't want to open that can of worms. The female co-worker would never use these terms to describe the situation, but she might think to herself that there's no way her friends would find this man attractive enough as a longer term partner.

If a guy were actually great, she would have no reservations about having him meet her eligible friends.

This doesn't happen much because the typical corporate woman is a married woman living in her married woman bubble. If unmarried, she's also probably in an LTR with all friends in LTRs or married.

I suppose I lucked out when interviewing for my current job (in the sense that even with my social awkwardness, I managed to get past the female HR rep's interview screening). There's always the possibility the interview wasn't long enough for the HR rep to pick up on my social awkwardness (or since I'm a college graduate who was clearly more than qualified for this job, which doesn't even require a degree, she might have let my social awkwardness slide, especially since we don't have any in-person contact with clients, and barely even any telephone contact with clients, in my role)

There's a good chance the HR rep picked up on your social awkwardness.

She and the hiring manager probably let it slide for the reasons you mentioned. You have a bachelor's degree in a job that doesn't require a bachelor's degree. Your social awkwardness isn't going to get exposed in the role as it is designed in that company.

There's probably a 0 chance that HR rep would have gone on a date with you if she were available and attractive 6 years ago when you initially interviewed.

In companies that are very STEM oriented, there are female HR reps who are neurotypical interviewing men with a good chance of being autistic. These neurotypical females have to figure out which socially awkward men are worth presenting to the hiring manager. In many cases, the hiring manager is an autist too.