"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Female friends settling down with lesser dudes

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By lesser I mean, less buff, less handsome less interesting, less fun filled by means of going outside. Fun can be had indoors, its all relative.
Also less challenging.
I'm hearing stories of how these guys propose their love and yadda yadda....and these chicks somehow stay with them.

In high school I could romance my way in with words because they were young.

In here we preach to be a challeng3.

Are these females I know weaker in their herd and scared?
I know too many have said that they don't want to settle, but that is what's happening.

On both sides, these guys that say such "Wonderful" committed things aren't the trim in shape tanned dudes with stylish hair, or I should say, pride in their image.

I wouldn't normally care, but there's an ocean of unsatisfied women, that I want to satisfy....so whats going?????
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Who Dares Win

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In my opinion nowadays the requirements to be a ltr for a woman are lower than to being her lover.

When you put "will to commit" in the mix it weights as much as abs and broad shoulders togheter.

Its not any different than a plane girl that gets your attention more the hotties after its clear that she is loyal and serious and into you.

It can also be the case of them marrying the wealthy entrepreneur while still fvcking the young cute pool boy.
 

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Yea....


Is this just the way things are?
Depends upon the TYPE of female, for a majority YES. They will "use" the brainier guy who can EARN much more than the average joe.

There is a type of female stimulated by these type of men though and they will be loyal and feel they have a prize.

With the normal "hot girl" they look at the guy as a "nerd" and like she is the prize.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I also think the nerd isn't as much of a loser as is often thought here. I happen to have a case study in progress. Got a nerd mate who is a top bloke but Clueless with chicks. Because he doesn't understand woman he generally finds them complicated and annoying so he actually has a zero fuks attitude. Because he spent most of his life inside of his head he's quite stubborn so probably wouldn't always surrender the frame at home. Even most AFCs r on a spectrum. Where they fall down is at the crunch points - too many s*** tests failed.

BTW I ve actually managed to start training him in boxing by framing it as a favour to me. You'd be surprised most of those guys do have some manliness in there somewhere they just don't know how to tap it.
 

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I also think the nerd isn't as much of a loser as is often thought here. I happen to have a case study in progress. Got a nerd mate who is a top bloke but Clueless with chicks. Because he doesn't understand woman he generally finds them complicated and annoying so he actually has a zero fuks attitude. Because he spent most of his life inside of his head he's quite stubborn so probably wouldn't always surrender the frame at home. Even most AFCs r on a spectrum. Where they fall down is at the crunch points - too many s*** tests failed.

BTW I ve actually managed to start training him in boxing by framing it as a favour to me. You'd be surprised most of those guys do have some manliness in there somewhere they just don't know how to tap it.
Some of them are manly, it's that their job occupation and salary level is not respected by people who didn't have to earn it themselves. Still the "hot girl" will think she's the prize. Vs the girl that always wanted to go to medical school marries a doctor, she will look up to him. The "hot girl" will not look up to him.
 

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You have to remember that nowadays, nerds rule the world. There are women who aren't into buff guys, but want Michael Cera or Jesse Eisenberg (actors that I like and respect) to ride them all night long.

21 jump street showed this really well. When Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum had to go under cover in high school Jonah Hill ended up being one of the cool kids because he was off beat, and Channing Tatum was considered aggressive and a **** and not cool. That's not that far from reality.

The fact that one of the biggest podcasts is the nerdist over say Joe Rogan (who has been on the nerdist) is telling.
 

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Agree. However I think that's where manly hobbies can be such a great shortcut even with the Hot girls. If the nerdy doctor left his hb9 alone on the odd weekend to go bowhunting he would naturally own more of the frame.
 

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Agree. However I think that's where manly hobbies can be such a great shortcut even with the Hot girls. If the nerdy doctor left his hb9 alone on the odd weekend to go bowhunting he would naturally own more of the frame.
Agree. I knew some lawyers that boxed, like constantly. Some of them do have very aggressive hobbies.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah. So the chickie gets to imply to her herd that she s got a bad boy she s managed to tame. And she gets ignored occasionally which can only be to the good.
 

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The real question is ... whose terms is the relationship on ... ? is the HB well behaved/loyal/respectful/selfless/passionate about the relationship/highly sexual/lady like/endearing/generous/etc. ?

The answer to those questions make all the difference.
Do you like her? Is she a threat to your well being?

FTFY
 

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Do you like her? Is she a threat to your well being?

FTFY
I guess my point is that a lot of professional nerds/dweebs/etc. can get a hot chick committed ... but these are the same girls who are fvcking the steamy "bad boy" on the side while enjoying the perks/stability of the nerd who takes care of them naively.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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@icantgetlaid well spotted. im suprised no one adressed that.

we all know what happens when a female have a beta male boyfriend - she will use him and cheat him.
 

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I guess my point is that a lot of professional nerds/dweebs/etc. can get a hot chick ... but these are the same girls who are fvcking the steamy "bad boy" on the side while enjoying the perks/stability of the nerd who takes care of them naively thinking they are locked down in an exclusive relationship.
Not much of a nerd if he's not intelligent enough to realize his hot chick has vacuum in her head...

EDIT: A naive nerd... Is that the opposite of a sophisticated moron?
 
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It all comes down to security, she latches onto a beta guy while she still has looks, as she ages and loses her looks she doesn't have any worries about her beta man fvcking off on her. I've known women that I grew up with they were really good looking in high school you look at them today you can't believe they are the same person, you've aged. One thing about us guys if we take care of ourselves we don't age that fast I know with myself I don't look my age.

Todays women are grossly insecure, its what I've found, I've run across a few that are not they've tried to intimidate me. I'm very much a lone wolf I'm very direct when I speak, most of the time I'm quiet. I watch the loud clowns putting on a show to impress the women, funny the one she's looking at is myself. I've had many confident women studdering.
 

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@Grewd where in any of my posts have I ever implied any man is lesser. This site is about raising men up and I'm totally on board with that.

The boxing thing with the friend is trying to encourage him to lose weight. He's 34 and at least 20 kilos overweight. He displayed interest in boxing and seemed to enjoy the first session. I've previously taken him down to the golf driving range and badminton but neither seemed to take.
 
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Security is pretty attractive and the advantage of the ungorgeous boyfriend is less concern about another woman stealing him, and if he has low self'esteem he will be loyal as a puppy..
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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