"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Female friend tries to con me into dating women my own age

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I was having dinner with a friend of mine earlier in the week, and she started asking me who I am seeing. I usually blow her off when she asks questions like this since I dated her friend last year, but lately I said "fukk it" and started answering her questions.

The running joke in this group of friends is that I'm always looking to hook up with the 21 yr olds. I do prefer younger women, so when she asked about one chick that I am seeing who she knows is in her mid 20's I told her "Eh, she's too old for me" I could tell she didn't like my joke, hehe.

So then she tells me that she wants to make a bet with me. She wants to bet me $20 that I won't date a woman who is my own age. Then she starts adding stipulations. She can't be bisexual. She can't be a stripper. Anything else?

I was laughing to myself about how much insecurity she was projecting, being an "older" woman (32ish??), but she was dead serious.

It's hilarious to watch women over 30 try to discredit the marketability of women who they perceive to be a threat to THEIR marketability.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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should have replied with..

"that would be a silly bet. its like betting me that i can't drink milk 5 days past its due date. sure i can drink, i just dont want to"

hehe watch the sparks fly after that.
 

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I kind of like the life experience and common interests in women over the age of 30 ....

younger chicks have the tight poonany, but when you say things like

" I remeber when Mtv used to play music videos " and they look at you and say " really "

give me the 30 + anyday
 

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It's a lot easier to manipulate younger women, but for me, it's more fun to hit on my equals or superiors, than my inferiors, but that's just me...
 

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I honestly don't know what everyone sees in older women, but if they make you happy....go for it.

And I don't see the generation gap as being a problem either. I hang out with women 21-25 all the time and it seems like they know amost as much about MY generation as I do. Seriously.....I fukked a 20 yr old awhile back who loves Journey and all kinds of other 80's stuff. I was shocked that I could relate to her on so many levels, and she hasn't been the only one who has surprised me.

It's just so entertaining to watch older women get so uncomfortable and even threatened at the prospect of having younger competition.

I'm having dinner and drinks with her again tonite. Can't wait to watch her fidget some more when the subject comes up (and it always does!)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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STR8UP, I respect you as a poster but I think this is a bit nasty on your part.

"Eh, she's too old for me"

That comment is bit beyond normal slagging. Why do you have the need to make comments like that? If you're happy with your situation, theres no need to boast about it
 

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vorbis said:
STR8UP, I respect you as a poster but I think this is a bit nasty on your part.

"Eh, she's too old for me"

That comment is bit beyond normal slagging. Why do you have the need to make comments like that? If you're happy with your situation, theres no need to boast about it
Huh?

I was joking around with a friend who jokes around with me about the same thing. And I wasn't boasting about anything....

She isn't interested in me, so it isn't an INSULT to her, she's just the same as most other older women (including some who post on this site) who feel the need to sell the virtues of their kind, sometimes by means of mud slinging. Funny stuff.
 

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What I don't get is why women look down on men dating younger women.

Who are the ones dating older men if it's not women?! They're mad at themselves!
 

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I predict that in 3-7 days Str8up will speak of another experience of meeting woman or talking about analyzing women into one generalized category.

I guess it's time to do what I gotta do.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
I predict that in 3-7 days Str8up will speak of another experience of meeting woman or talking about analyzing women into one generalized category.

I guess it's time to do what I gotta do.
I meet new women all the time, so you are probably right.

And I'm sure most people who know older women will concur with me that most of them tend to become very defensive about their younger competition. You disagree? If so why not give us your input instead of your hater BS?

If this site isn't here for bouncing ideas back and forth and posting your thoughts on women and dealing with women, then why does it exist?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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STR8UP said:
If this site isn't here for bouncing ideas back and forth and posting your thoughts on women and dealing with women, then why does it exist?
:cool: $traight ca$h, homie.

Idea:

Next time one of these 30-something gals exhibits her insecurity and digs deep into her playbook of social contrivances in an attempt to shame you, try this one - Look at your watch, and put your hand up to pause her mid-sentence, and say "Hold up a second. My future wife is being born right about... now!"

If she doesn't hit you or call you an ass-hole, you didn't do it right.
 

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STR8UP said:
It's hilarious to watch women over 30 try to discredit the marketability of women who they perceive to be a threat to THEIR marketability.
I agree. A few years ago, I had a date with a 30 y.o. whose figure had decayed a bit from the picture in which I had seen her, and somehow we got into this conversation.
 

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mrRuckus said:
What I don't get is why women look down on men dating younger women.

Who are the ones dating older men if it's not women?! They're mad at themselves!
Typically the ones that act like these are SINGLE women in their 30s and 40s that cannot find GOOD men in their dating pool.
 

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WestCoaster said:
STR8UP, does your friend go by the handle Wyldfire?
They do bear some striking similarities.....
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Older women don't like men their age dating younger women for 2 reasons:

1) It drains their prospective dating pool and
2) It reminds them that the balance of power has shifted, and it will never go back.

In many cases these are the same chicks who were dating a HS senior when they were a freshman, and dating 30 year old men with sports cars while they were in college. Being upset about it NOW is just hypocritical.
 

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I'm a young 48 and I won't throw away opportunities just because of age but I do boner up much quicker when I see a nice tight young ass walking by looking at me in the eyes smiling and responding when I ask whats up?

20's, 30's even 40's if they take care of themselves will be some good lovin'.

LoneSilver :)
 

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LoneSilver said:
I'm a young 48 and I won't throw away opportunities just because of age but I do boner up much quicker when I see a nice tight young ass walking by looking at me in the eyes smiling and responding when I ask whats up?

20's, 30's even 40's if they take care of themselves will be some good lovin'.

LoneSilver :)
At 48...I can understand seeing anyone below FORTY FIVE. Would you date women in their 50s and 60s? HELL NO!!!
 

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Actually there are several older ladies I have seen around town in their 50's and one around 61 with tight bodies and look like there in their 30's and hell yes if they take good care of themselves like that even in this age group I'll boner with that age too.

LoneSilver


Latinoman said:
At 48...I can understand seeing anyone below FORTY FIVE. Would you date women in their 50s and 60s? HELL NO!!!
 

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LoneSilver said:
Actually there are several older ladies I have seen around town in their 50's and one around 61 with tight bodies and look like there in their 30's and hell yes if they take good care of themselves like that even in this age group I'll boner with that age too.

LoneSilver
Plastic surgery...liposuction...and LOT of make-up.

Regardless...it has nothing to do with the looks and more to do with the baggage and bitterness. Although...I'm sure that in their 50s+ that bitterness goes away to a degree.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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