Female entitlement

[StacksHitEmUp]

Can someone explain me the right course to deal with women that are entitled? Like both my gf and side-piece complain I don't give them enough attention and I don't seem to care and do any effort for them. Even though sometimes I find myself actually doing too much effort. They can't seem to get over the fact I'm not texting them 24/7 or initiate random text convos often. They also say I'm too full of myself. It's like they're trying to turn me into a full on beta. I usually wouldn't care what they think but now it's getting annoying because it leads to drama.

The slobbering beta's feed women unrealistic expectations and it's really making me wonder how in God's name you can keep a female happy in a longer relationship without going full stupid. How do you men in ltr's handle this?

 

[Visionist]

No LTRs here, but I would unleash a little dread game and really give them something to complain about by withdrawing attention further. They need to appreciate what they have and absence makes the cooch grow wetter in this case.

If you have the time, introduce a third plate. One who's overjoyed at the understandably limited attention you can give her rather than having the gall to complain that you aren't a needy soyboy. IMO abundance starts at three girls and up.

 

[Jack12345]

It's like they're trying to turn me into a full on beta

Good post
Was wondering about the same thing yesterday due to recent experience
As if they "enjoy" to think they have control over you, and when you dont give them this opportunity they pissed off.. this is bizarre

 

[Scars]

I usually go through cycles where I draw back and distance for awhile, and then surprise them with something special, and then go back to what I was doing before. I don't plan or calculate this, it just kind of happens. I work a lot and I'm a business owner, so I don't give my plates the time and attention they think they "deserve" so when I feel a girl is getting to this point I will usually get them flowers or buy them a gift or take them somewhere and do something "special" that reminds them "I care", let them ooze in the romanticism for awhile, and then go back to what I was doing. Usually keeps them happy for another month or two, until they start feeling that way again. Rinse and repeat.

Also, I know I'm probably gonna have some clown quote me and try to call me "beta" for this. I'm talking about doing these types of things after an extreme amount of distance and neglecting them to the point where you feel they're about to leave. Think of it as an exaggerated push-pull. Her mind starts to wonder and think you don't care, and then you suddenly do something over the top that surprises her and ropes her back in.

 

[Serenity]

What kind of effort are you talking about? Effort to stave off the drama or effort to address the root cause of the drama? I'm gonna guess it's the former, they'll continue to complain until you address the root cause. I guess that's the fact that you don't genuinely give a fvck about any of them, that's what happens with guys who interpret "being alpha" the way you do.

Ever had a woman be cold and distant, as if she had someone else on the side? Yeah, you're the male equivalent of that. You're probably going to lose both of them and with your strategy you won't be able to keep a woman around for that long.

So you have a choice. You can change your views to something sustainable enough that woman would want to be with you indefinitely or you'll have to accept that with your current strategy the days are numbered.

 

[StacksHitEmUp]

What kind of effort are you talking about? Effort to stave off the drama or effort to address the root cause of the drama? I'm gonna guess it's the former, they'll continue to complain until you address the root cause. I guess that's the fact that you don't genuinely give a fvck about any of them, that's what happens with guys who interpret "being alpha" the way you do.

Ever had a woman be cold and distant, as if she had someone else on the side? Yeah, you're the male equivalent of that. You're probably going to lose both of them and with your strategy you won't be able to keep a woman around for that long.

So you have a choice. You can change your views to something sustainable enough that woman would want to be with you indefinitely or you'll have to accept that with your current strategy the days are numbered.

Good post. So I know they want me to give more of a **** and pursue them a little bit more but how does one actually show or do that? I'm so bad at finding the right balance. People are suggesting starve them of attention but if I do that, they'll both definitely leave me because I feel like they feel like they are already starved of it.

 

[Lookatu]

You shouldn't make any efforts on plates. They either take it or leave it. As for a GF, if she really is your gf, how come you two don't know how to communicate about this stuff? It would seem pretty straight forward. If she's allowed to complain, you should also vent out anything you feel you're missing from her.

One thing I say sometimes and have to remind the gals I'm with is that I tell them that I'm looking for someone to complement my life and not take over my life. A guy should have several things and purposes in his life and anytime a woman prevents him from achieving that, is just a big leech that will constantly drain you and add nothing to your life.

Now if you're putting zero effort except just seeing her to bang her, then yeah you need to step up your maintenance program. As with anything, you need to have certain level of maintenance.

 

[Serenity]

Good post. So I know they want me to give more of a **** and pursue them a little bit more but how does one actually show or do that? I'm so bad at finding the right balance. People are suggesting starve them of attention but if I do that, they'll both definitely leave me because I feel like they feel like they are already starved of it.

If you're gonna keep both of them you'll be a very busy man, you might have to consider letting one of them go. Btw, do they know about each other?

Give them time and attention. Do more stuff with them and spend more time with them. You find the balance by listening to them and watching them, if they become distant/seem bored then pull back, if they complain about you not being there enough then simply be there more.

Edit: It's amusing that the profanity filter censors a part of your username, just because it has the letters S, H, I and T next to each other.

 

[bcude]

Good post. So I know they want me to give more of a **** and pursue them a little bit more but how does one actually show or do that? I'm so bad at finding the right balance. People are suggesting starve them of attention but if I do that, they'll both definitely leave me because I feel like they feel like they are already starved of it.

Why would you starve people you enjoy of attention? That's mainly used for women you're displeased with.
Do your thing and live your life just as you want it but when you do spend time together, spend quality time, be present, give her your full attention, show that you care by doing things (women talk - men do), like taking her to a spontaneous trip into the woods or whatever, girls love adventures. The more quality time you spend together, the less they need your texting etc. in between. Why? Because you form fun memories and they feel you do care when you have time. A high value man is busy, but he's also present. Be unpredictable, call when she doesn't expect it, give her some small gift randomly that showed you thought about her, girls eat this stuff up and they'll appreciate it much more.

You know you have a problem when a woman doesn't complain about something. When you do everything perfect they will naturally complain and want more of you aswell because you're a source of good emotions, but reading this thread i get the impression you probably don't genuinely care about them at all and that doesn't work to keep a relationship healthy. There's some give and take.

 

[bat soup]

Can someone explain me the right course to deal with women that are entitled? Like both my gf and side-piece complain I don't give them enough attention and I don't seem to care and do any effort for them. Even though sometimes I find myself actually doing too much effort. They can't seem to get over the fact I'm not texting them 24/7 or initiate random text convos often. They also say I'm too full of myself. It's like they're trying to turn me into a full on beta. I usually wouldn't care what they think but now it's getting annoying because it leads to drama.

The slobbering beta's feed women unrealistic expectations and it's really making me wonder how in God's name you can keep a female happy in a longer relationship without going full stupid. How do you men in ltr's handle this?

Don't worry about whether or not they're happy. If a woman tells you that she's not happy, point out where the door is.