"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Feelings/Emotions (ladies respond too)

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So I was thinking about this topic of feelings and emotions as a guy, and I thought about being a DJ, and not AFC, and how guys shouldn't really express any type of feelings towards a woman, or "spill their guts" per se, and it got me thinking about if there is a fine line to where some is too much, but at the same time if their isn't enough, the woman gets upset.

Now correct me if I am wrong ladies, but many times you hear... If you would have just told me how you felt about me.... or something similar from a woman, and they actually want to hear that from a guy.

You hear on here all of the time and in the DJ Bible about how you should never tell a woman you like her, and how you express that by your actions, and that she'll get the clue.

My question is, if you are around a woman who over the past few months has just amazed you, and she's exactly what you are looking for in a woman, so much so that is scares the crap out of you, what do you do? You realize that most of your life this has never been a problem. Sure you've had girlfriends and dated, but no one has hit you like a freight train like this woman has.

Say you've never thought about telling a woman your TRUE feelings cause you know that's not what your supposed to do, and then one fine day you find yourself wondering if you should keep up what you are doing, and just keep it inside or let it all out and lay it on the table, so you can stop holding it in.

What if the woman WANTS to hear what you have to say about her, and that maybe she's waiting for you to say something, instead of hiding it all inside. what if she thinks that you are NOT an emotional being, and she doesn't like that, and the fact you cant tell her how you feel about her.

It would seem odd one would think to go through life not telling someone something especially if they were someone who just has never hit you like anyone else ever has. What if you told a woman what she's never heard before, cause no one felt the way they did about her as you did. One day we may be alive and the next day dead, and what if that other person never knew cause we told ourselves... I AM MAN, I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SPILL MY GUTS. I AM MADE OF CONCRETE.

Anyway, I'm after thoughts about all of this from the male point of view and the female point of view. I know we dont have too many females on here, but we have a handful that can give their thoughts on a topic like this.
 

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If a man tells a woman that he is not even involved with that she is 'so amazing that it scares the crap out of him' and that it's like being hit by a freight train, she is going to wonder if he is sane. Women might say they would like that in theory, but in reality it will scare them, they will think 'you don't even know me' and will feel uncomfortable that they have not qualified themselves to you.

You will seem like a pushover. It doesn't matter if you have genuinely never felt like this about anyone else, they will think 'if he can feel like that about me without intimacy, without getting to know me better, without testing me a bit' he'd probably fall in love with anyone.

You understand also how women like a challenge? Your spilling your guts isn't going to make her think 'Great, that's all so simple now, how convenient.' Instead you will be robbing her of the fun part of getting close. She will back away, anyone here who has tried such an approach will tell you. What you are suggesting only works in Hollywood chick-flicks.

Why not tell us all how this unique woman is so much more amazing than anyone else you've ever met? She's attractive I take it. What else?
 

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Nighthawk said:
You will seem like a pushover. It doesn't matter if you have genuinely never felt like this about anyone else, they will think 'if he can feel like that about me without intimacy, without getting to know me better, without testing me a bit' he'd probably fall in love with anyone.

You understand also how women like a challenge? Your spilling your guts isn't going to make her think 'Great, that's all so simple now, how convenient.' Instead you will be robbing her of the fun part of getting close. She will back away, anyone here who has tried such an approach will tell you.

Why not tell us all how this unique woman is so much more amazing than anyone else you've ever met? She's attractive I take it. What else?
I think the things above I kept are key in things like this. Sometimes we forget the other things until someone mentions it.

The getting to know me better bit is a big part I think, and so is the whole fun part of being a challenge.

My thoughts were that if you let it all out, like you said then there is no more fun to it. She's thinking... Basically he told me everything all at once, and now what? He should really spend more time with me.

I dont know if you call it unique, or what you call it, but its the way she acts, the things she says, and this comfort level around her.

I dont see her too often, but when I do, a get a hair more attracted to her. At first I never even thought this girl would do much for me. Said hi once, introduced myself, went about my business, chatted with her later, but then as time went by, I caught myself liking and wanting this woman more and more as I got to know her little by little.

We've had these chats and arguments and what not, and though we are not a couple, the way she interacts with me, and vice versa and how we both handle things is almost like we are in a relationship.

And during all of this stuff the past few months, i've realized that she would make a good girlfriend and not some fling. She's brutally honest, she's not scared to state her mind, she's funny, dumb on occasion. lol, but its that whole package. I just feel a real connection with this one.

She's very comfortable around me as well seeing as we dont see one another that much. She told me last week...man since i've been sick and blowing my nose, it's peeling, and still snotty, SEE! (and then she'd go on to show me her nose. lol)

Most girls would NEVER do something so gross and not feminine like around a guy who likes them, for fear of what they might think. and some guys might go gross, but I found it cute, and interesting that she didnt give a rats ass about it, and I liked that. To me that meant she was ok in her own skin.

My thought was not to spill any emotions, but every so often maybe mention something about her.

Tell her her laugh is funny, or the way she gets mad, but nothing outrageous, and at the same time, you mention those things little by little. I want her to know I like her not just cause she's cute and all, and that's not the reason I really like her. It's all those little things that make up a whole.

I mentioned to her last night I thought her earrings looked nice. I said nothing else about her. And these things were pretty small, but I noticed them and told her.

I am not one to go and spill my guts and I dont, but with this one, I want to at least make it known what I think about her a little more then others.

I just need to find a way to get it across little by little, so she knows I notice things about her aside from her looks. She kind of knows this a little, but she has no clue about anything else cause i've never said anything.
 

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The MAIN thing is not the actual Act of 'spilling your guts'...

...it is WHY.
Why do you NEED to?

Examine THIS First.
 

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Bro you got a serious case of oneitis. Are you spinning your plates??
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Lose your guts.. lose the chase.. lose her interest.

You don't have to be a complete brick wall, but don't open yourself up to her completely. You say she'd make a good GF and not a "fling" but I damn well garauntee she will get bored of you once she knows EVERYTHING. Seriously dude, it doesn't sound like you're going to listen, and that's fine. See you back in a few weeks/months crying about your broken heart. Good luck.
 

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I hat to see it but I see an LJBF coming up...

In answer to the mor egeneral question of 'should I spill my guts,' the answer is possibly, but only whenb you know the girl VERY well and have been dating long enough for her to deserve it. That's one of the biggest things that women uncomfortable I think - giving her something she hasn't earned through her personality/effort.
 

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Scars said:
Lose your guts.. lose the chase.. lose her interest.

You don't have to be a complete brick wall, but don't open yourself up to her completely. You say she'd make a good GF and not a "fling" but I damn well garauntee she will get bored of you once she knows EVERYTHING. Seriously dude, it doesn't sound like you're going to listen, and that's fine. See you back in a few weeks/months crying about your broken heart. Good luck.
Ok, obviously 18yr olds dont read posts very well :yawn: It's ok, you still have time to learn to read. It is never too late.

And to the others who read posts....

It isn't the fact I WANT to spill my guts cause I think that's always too much, so I guess I should have re-phrased what I was trying to get after.

My point was making it a little more obvious to this girl than others that she's not just the other girl or like the one before or the one before that.

I dont want her to think she's just that random girl, that's all.

I get things across that I should, and that's given, but I just need something else to use, and i'm not sure what.

I dont want to compliment HER, cause that's an AFC thing to do.

I think part of the problem is too, is that I dont see her outside of work, but this Saturday I will, so I need to get more of myself out there, as in WHO I am. The fun, interesting guy, and all of that good stuff. So i'm hoping Saturday works to my advantage since it wont be at work.
 

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Omen said:
Ok, obviously 18yr olds dont read posts very well :yawn: It's ok, you still have time to learn to read. It is never too late.

And to the others who read posts....

It isn't the fact I WANT to spill my guts cause I think that's always too much, so I guess I should have re-phrased what I was trying to get after.

My point was making it a little more obvious to this girl than others that she's not just the other girl or like the one before or the one before that.

I dont want her to think she's just that random girl, that's all.

I get things across that I should, and that's given, but I just need something else to use, and i'm not sure what.

I dont want to compliment HER, cause that's an AFC thing to do.

I think part of the problem is too, is that I dont see her outside of work, but this Saturday I will, so I need to get more of myself out there, as in WHO I am. The fun, interesting guy, and all of that good stuff. So i'm hoping Saturday works to my advantage since it wont be at work.
All I can really tell you is that if you do this, be prepared for ANYTHING.

Not to sound like a pesimist but for the most part I can see it going how NightHawk described it.
 
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