"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Feeling blindsided, what happened?

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Update. She ended up texting back yesterday before I sent anything. Just said Sorry I didn't get back to you, been really busy. Told her no prob and left it there.

I will reach out tonight and if she seems receptive I'll invite her out this weekend.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Avoid saying you are dating other girls, you risk making them feel like a plates they are.
Disagree.

Tell them if they ask. Very high chance it will pique her interest even more. Just be nonchalant when telling her. "Yeah, I date around. There are a few girls I see. Hey, the Cubs signed a new pitcher..." I do this a lot because they ask. 90% of the time they get more interested and tell me they WANT to be #1. I tell them, "Haha, Nikki is going to be really hard to take down but you can jump in the mix and fight your way to the title, lol." This works almost every time.
 

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[QUOTE="the_stig, post: 2520087, member: 108727"
]Just said Sorry I didn't get back to you, been really busy. Told her no prob and left it there.[/QUOTE]

Why, ? why not inviting her for a date on the spot, hitting the iron while it's still hot .Too much thinking, too much game, too much rules in my opinion.
 

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Disagree.

Tell them if they ask. Very high chance it will pique her interest even more. Just be nonchalant when telling her. "Yeah, I date around. There are a few girls I see. Hey, the Cubs signed a new pitcher..." I do this a lot because they ask. 90% of the time they get more interested and tell me they WANT to be #1. I tell them, "Haha, Nikki is going to be really hard to take down but you can jump in the mix and fight your way to the title, lol." This works almost every time.
Will try this
 

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It just feels like you don't have a great grasp of what the actual social dynamics of dating are. Like, you don't realize how fake dating is and how many options women have at any given time. It's all extremely fickle stuff. The rest of us are getting blown out after 6 months-1 year of perfect chemistry and you are overthinking two dates. I mean we have all been there.
I can assure you that OP is far from inexperienced, as a guy who knows stig personally and even went in field with him, this guy is legit

What happens is when a girl shows high IL it can really throw you off when she is not congruent

His situation sounds similar to mine except we went on 3 dates, she paid for 2 of those dates, and showed super high interest. (3rd one at my place where she blew me) was suppose to go on a 4th date and she said she was "sick" I have not heard from her again.

I do agree that women are very fickle when a girl can blowy you on Thursday and on Sunday act like a completely different person

Heartise while I may not agree with some of his stuff I do think being "Indifferent" is key here, this is why spinning plates is so important. It literally combats thrist, needy behavior etc.

Personally stig, I wouldn't reach out but that's just me, if you do reach out, do it once and see if she response and act accordingly
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She said the conversation "was amazing".


For starters, what sort of cuck listens to what a woman says? She says one thing, then, she goes skiing down cawk mountain.

Did not state her age. GUARANTEED, she is past top form SMV.

You got society in western culture preaching about girl power, emasculating men, demonzing dudes, and well, cucks continue to go bottom feeders with trash.


TS, step your game up. If you haven't gone balls deep or at the very least, had your **** sucked, STFU, and go get more babes.
 

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I can assure you that OP is far from inexperienced, as a guy who knows stig personally and even went in field with him, this guy is legit

What happens is when a girl shows high IL it can really throw you off when she is not congruent

His situation sounds similar to mine except we went on 3 dates, she paid for 2 of those dates, and showed super high interest. (3rd one at my place where she blew me) was suppose to go on a 4th date and she said she was "sick" I have not heard from her again.

I do agree that women are very fickle when a girl can blowy you on Thursday and on Sunday act like a completely different person

Heartise while I may not agree with some of his stuff I do think being "Indifferent" is key here, this is why spinning plates is so important. It literally combats thrist, needy behavior etc.

Personally stig, I wouldn't reach out but that's just me, if you do reach out, do it once and see if she response and act accordingly
SOFT! Save the emo and feelers for women and small children.

Da **** is this horse ****? They talked about feelers? Held hands? Pathetic!

Smash rotten, blow on her face, and then, go find more babes. WASH/RINSE/REPEAT!

After a harem of top form SMV, then preach about your feelers having had choice. Not found some woman pushing 40 who wants a baby. Christ!
 

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I mean I get as thrown off by this stuff as anyone. I don't think more experience takes the sting away altogether, in fact sometimes it compounds it because youve seen this so many times before and it starts feeling a bit hopeless.

In fact, I could easily post a similar story I'm going through right now. It was just his confusion about the facts of the situation that seemed so odd.
aww I gotcha

SOFT! Save the emo and feelers for women and small children.

Da **** is this horse ****? They talked about feelers? Held hands? Pathetic!

Smash rotten, blow on her face, and then, go find more babes. WASH/RINSE/REPEAT!

After a harem of top form SMV, then preach about your feelers having had choice. Not found some woman pushing 40 who wants a baby. Christ!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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These trolls man.....I mean back in the day you guys tried to be somewhat entertaining...but alas carry on
That is not an argument. TS was ranting about "good conversation." How about I start a thread about BBWs with a nice personality?



You wut mate?
 

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So another crazy update

Reached back out. Seemed excited to hear from me and eager to meet again like nothing happened.

So we went out Saturday night, had a really good time like the first two dates, her interest level seemed high as ever, again tells me how comfortable she feels with me, acts sad when we have to say goodbye, etc. All seemed well. Then I send a follow-up text Sunday evening saying "Fun seeing you last night, here are those pics we talked about (in reference to something from the date) and now it's Tuesday evening with no reply. Maybe my text was too open ended or I'm overthinking but WTF.

Is this chick playing some kind of game or just low interest? Sure she doesn't come off as low interest when we're together which is why I'm really scratching my head right now...


I can assure you that OP is far from inexperienced, as a guy who knows stig personally and even went in field with him, this guy is legit
Thanks brah.
 

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Feels like something is up. Maybe it's just her personality, communication style or whatever... but I know if I was keen on someone, I wouldn't leave them potentially hanging on a reply to a text that long. Even a simple 'Hey thanks, yeah it was fun too' or something from her.

I'd advise just to wait and let her text you next.
 

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you failed to make her pvssy fizz
 

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Push pull sucks, doesnt it?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So another crazy update

Reached back out. Seemed excited to hear from me and eager to meet again like nothing happened.

So we went out Saturday night, had a really good time like the first two dates, her interest level seemed high as ever, again tells me how comfortable she feels with me, acts sad when we have to say goodbye, etc. All seemed well. Then I send a follow-up text Sunday evening saying "Fun seeing you last night, here are those pics we talked about (in reference to something from the date) and now it's Tuesday evening with no reply. Maybe my text was too open ended or I'm overthinking but WTF.

Is this chick playing some kind of game or just low interest? Sure she doesn't come off as low interest when we're together which is why I'm really scratching my head right now...




Thanks brah.
You’re ****ed bro. Drop her. It shouldn’t take her 2 days to text back. I’d let a girl go maybe 2 hours to text back. She’s got another dude that priority and you’re the back up
 

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A girl with high interest will never leave any doubts or confusion in your mind. Anything less than high interest isn't worth having and ends up causing you mental exhaustion. Take that to the bank.
 

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hen I send a follow-up text Sunday evening saying "Fun seeing you last night, here are those pics we talked about (in reference to something from the date) and now it's Tuesday evening with no reply. .
Two days with no reply, and a question as what to do next?

You're quite forgiving. More than 24 hours with no reply, and a girl gets the insta-boot. No exceptions.

YOU > Pvzzy
 

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Two days with no reply, and a question as what to do next?

You're quite forgiving. More than 24 hours with no reply, and a girl gets the insta-boot. No exceptions.

YOU > Pvzzy
I can’t remember what Patrice said but it was along the lines of his wanker was the same as *****. Why should anyone put women’s hole on a pedestal? Vag is a meal/food and I’m hungry and ready to eat lol
 

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Like Soloman said, just throws you off when their behavior is not congruent. When I dropped her at her car Saturday, she got in and gave me sad face with a long wave goodbye. Thought for sure I had her in the bag. Just tons of little signs of interest like that.

I'll text her tomorrow and ask her out for the weekend. Nothing to lose. Should I chat her up first and see if she responds, or text straight away "Hey let's check out X on Saturday night"?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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