You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I wanted to point out that this is a good point, prosemount, and I wanted to add a little bit to it.EDIT: One more thing ... you have to remember that this is the H&F site on sosuave which means that many people are going to be coming here with different ideas and desires than those going to bb.com or some other site. For some guys, taking a multivitamin and realizing that they shouldn't eat processed foods or sugars is a huge education for them. And, really, that's all they're looking for. Some of the most natural DJ's I know don't work out and eat (and drink) horribly and aren't fat per se (from a societal view, not from a bodyfat % view). To many guys, they're just looking for ways to feel a *little* better and maybe drop the extra 10 pounds they picked up from drinking too many scotches. They're not looking to change their lifestyles by stopping smoking and dropping the scotches whatsoever -- they just want to drop ten. So, take this board with that in mind. Remember, the H&F on this site is about anything that is going to help make someone feel and look their best. We also get questions on stds and all types of other issues.
Roling your eyes at me...well, semag, *cough* if you haven't realized it yet, most people here don't even know the basics. These links are ocourse directed to those who acually lift weights. If you look at the first page, thats what most people in h+f ask about. The info here is limited. Im not talking about actually hanging out at the bb.com forum. Im talking about reading articles that explains the basics in a very good way. The basics of nutrition, supplyment, training and the understanding of different methods in training. Atleast they'll know the basics from reading the info on the links. After that, forums like elite fitness and many others will be a better choise. But bb.com is a good place for the basics since they have articles on the basics. But you probobly knew that anywayssemag said:*cough* a noob site like that is great for noobs, yes.![]()
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
goals may be different, but methods stay the samecheck_mate_kid_uk said:Fireguy i have joined that bodybuilding forum a few days ago. The information is all there. Aprat from the fact that there as so many members that you will probabably never recognise posters unless you got a real good memory. Most people there have htis obbsesion to get huge, like 240lb's which is somewhere diffrent to my goal!
Yeah its just scary all these people saying they wnat to be so huge, and posting all those pics of pro bodybuilders, oh and 1 thing sickens me more then that, have you seen those guys that over do there lats! They got normal arms and chest, but there lats actualy make there upper body look like a large triangle, and i do not mean that in a good way!fireguy said:goals may be different, but methods stay the same![]()
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I haven't seen any particularly advanced information here either.semag said:*cough* a noob site like that is great for noobs, yes.![]()