Fat/Ugly chicks seem to do way better than most guys here

[FutureSpartan]

I really have no sympathy for fat/ugly women in the dating game, from what I have noticed they are often times not lacking male company.

My ex-gf's obese friend was constantly getting laid by different guys and managed to snag a long-term relationship just fine and then proceeded to cheat on him.

My uncles ex-wife (fat, loud, horrible attitude) cheated on him with (according to my mom) a very attractive guy she had dated before getting married.

This girl I took classes with, who was slightly above average looking at best with a really masculine attitude had plenty of guys chasing her even while she had a boyfriend.

Another girl I took class with, loud, obnoxious, extremely obese, in a relationship.

A coworker (Average looking, flirts with a lot of guys, borderline AW) her boyfriend thinks "she gets more amazing with each passing day"

And just countless other instances where I have seen girls who at best are nothing to write home about (looks or personality wise) being pampered by some "lucky guy"

It seems like the men with reasonable standards in a girls looks and attitude struggle to get even one date....what the hell is going on here?

 

[jnice48146]

I'd say that many of them know how to "stroke a man's ego" properly, among other things......;-) Maybe they are female DJ's or something?

 

[FutureSpartan]

Must be....or guys are just so desperate for female attention they will grab the first thing that comes along.

 

[Exhumed]

Must be....or guys are just so desperate for female attention they will grab the first thing that comes along.

This

 

[WhitePimp]

A female always has an advantage simply by having that hole. Most extremely desperate guys will choose a sea creature instead of being alone.

 

[lazikia]

I think the thing is that fat/ugly girls are way more aggressive than the AFCs on this board. Look at the advice people on this board gives, they tell you to message the girl once then ignore her, all the advice I see if for ignoring girls, this only works if the girls attracted to you to begin with otherwise you have to be extremely aggressive like our fat/ugly counterparts.

 

[FutureSpartan]

A female always has an advantage simply by having that hole. Most extremely desperate guys will choose a sea creature instead of being alone.

I know, it just amazes me how low the bar is set for women these days. I mean at least back then women made some sort of effort to stay in shape, dress well, carry on with feminine grace. I would totally respect their sexual advantage if they didnt take it for granted like they do today.

Even with all the effort I put in to improve myself, I still have to work my ass off to get some kind of sexual attention

On the flip side, a loud fat obnoxious cow with no class can get laid at ease by the hordes of desperate man-boys. Women are already selective enough....this phenomenon just makes ALL of them more spoiled and entitled.

 

[FutureSpartan]

I think the thing is that fat/ugly girls are way more aggressive than the AFCs on this board. Look at the advice people on this board gives, they tell you to message the girl once then ignore her, all the advice I see if for ignoring girls, this only works if the girls attracted to you to begin with otherwise you have to be extremely aggressive like our fat/ugly counterparts.

I don't know if its a regional thing but down here in the south...ALL women here are generally reserved and "too prideful" to make the first move, including the fat ones. Most women here are out of shape anyways; out-of-shape and flabby are the new 7's and 8's, while obese is considered average. Any woman in good shape and moderately attractive is considered a dime piece.

 

[thedude4242]

thats because of all them men out their that think with their ****. they got to go where they can get it. the hot girls aint giving them any so that is what they do.

 

[12AJ12]

Living on residence, I can tell you my obese neighbor gets laid more than anybody else on my floor. I know, because she's so big it's hard to miss the earthquake.

 

[Biggie]

A female always has an advantage simply by having that hole. Most extremely desperate guys will choose a sea creature instead of being alone.

Haha i little laughed out loud at that one. A "sea creature" lol.

 

[FutureSpartan]

^^^^^^^^^^^ :crackup:

 

[Forty0ztoFreedom]

I think the thing is that fat/ugly girls are way more aggressive than the AFCs on this board. Look at the advice people on this board gives, they tell you to message the girl once then ignore her, all the advice I see if for ignoring girls, this only works if the girls attracted to you to begin with otherwise you have to be extremely aggressive like our fat/ugly counterparts.

I don't know if you can blame this board, but I agree that the "ignore her" type advice is horrible. I'm still trying to shake that . . Sometimes I catch myself subconsciously thinking "I'm gonna pretend to ignore her" like when a girl comes into the bar or something . .

Ugh. Awful. Nothing happens, and you end up feeling like a huge AFC. "Why didn't I just talk to her??" Would you ignore a friend coming in?

I think "ignore her" is worse than going up and telling her you have a huge crush on her. Seriously. Even though you'll probably not get anywhere, at least you'll feel like you manned up and took SOME action, and weren't just the guy pretending to text someone and looking cool.

I hearby decide that I hate all "ignore her" type of advice. Planned inaction is crap, and probably always transparent. Nobody just 'ignores' somebody like that. Maybe you chat for a bit and then run off to do something . . or start talking to someone else, cool. But that pre-planned exclusion of someone always makes me feel like the biggest toolbag.

 

[FutureSpartan]

I agree with Danger....women won't risk losing a high value man by stringing him along. If she's doing this it means you aren't her top priority (another guy is)

 

[DonJuan11]

I really have no sympathy for fat/ugly women in the dating game, from what I have noticed they are often times not lacking male company.

A coworker (Average looking, flirts with a lot of guys, borderline AW) her boyfriend thinks "she gets more amazing with each passing day"

And just countless other instances where I have seen girls who at best are nothing to write home about (looks or personality wise) being pampered by some "lucky guy"

It seems like the men with reasonable standards in a girls looks and attitude struggle to get even one date....what the hell is going on here?

"The hell is going on here" is that these girls are fun to be with, have a good personality and are probably very good at sex that a thin hot girl who just lies there.

Alot of members on this board don't have much experience, so they do the worst thing and only go for a HB 8 or higher, a supermodel or actress trpy because that's all they have been exposed to, which is ridiculous. They don't realize it takes time and effort to work your way up to that level. Granted some guys can do it on their first try, but they are few and far between. Just like it takes a 6 months to get a six pack, 1 year to learn a language or 2 years to play guitar like Slash, it takes time to learn to sleep with hot girls.

These guys that go with that fat/ugly chicks as you put it probably have had enough BS from the hot girls, they know they can just relax and fun with these normal less than average looking girls. Alot of people here would take an less attractive girl who is freaky in bed than a HB9 who just lies there.

 

[lazikia]

The advice to ignore is based on cutting your losses on a losing investment. Keep messaging a girl that only occassionally responds gets you what? A whole lot of wasted time.

Do not waste your time trying to "generate attraction" with a woman who is not already attracted to you. Your time is better spent improving yourself, that will go a long ways in attracting women.

Yes, but part of her not being attracted to you is your inability to be aggressive and dominant. Messaging her once or twice and then giving up is not aggressive or dominant, it's half as$ed and it's something a beta male would do.

Let's say someone wants to get into Harvard. Would you tell them to apply once and give up or to try at least 10 times? I don't know about you, but I envy the guy who applies 10 times much more than the guy who applies once and just gives up.

 

[lazikia]

Constantly texting or calling a girl with low to middle interest is NOT dominant and it is NOT aggressive either. It's "creepy" and it will not serve you well.

Be dominant and aggressive in making yourself a KING. Spend that energy IMPROVING your life and the women will come. Spend your dominance on the areas of life that are number one for you and the women will LOVE you for it.

Interested women will make it easy for you. Uninterested women are chasing the man that is chasing his dream. Go be that man.

I disagree completely. I've improved my life and only more fat girls came and the other in-shape girls were mean to me. And I do think texting a girl with middle to low interest is aggressive. It shows that you don't care whether she likes you or not, not giving up on something you want is attractive. Now if we're talking about sending texts that are just a bunch of compliments and don't help create attraction, then I agree, sending those texts are a bad idea.

 

[lazikia]

Well you are missing other important parts to the equation then. If you want to text girls that do not have high interest then I hope it works out for you.

Good luck.

You text girls that don't have high interest and create an attraction between you, say stuff that will make her want you more.

 

[lazikia]

But she doesn't want you bro.

She doesn't want you!

That's why you create attraction, bro! Harvard might not want the guy who bombed his SATs but he can show them other things to make Harvard want him.

 

[lazikia]

By developing his knowledge and gaining relevant experience Harvard are more likely to accept him.

Like you developing your DJ skills and gaining experience with other girls first.

Yeah, but you're NEVER going to learn anything from just messaging a girl once and giving up. It's just going to keep on happening and happening. That's why you have to try to be more aggressive and message them more often than just once. A ***** beta male would just message a girl once and give up, you have to be more aggressive then that.

Trust me, man. My first year of college I had a roommate who always got girls and my last year of college I had a (completely unrelated) roommate who always got girls. I learned from them that you have to be assertive and aggressive.