“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Fat girls with potential

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Here's an interesting thought. Have you guys ever seen a fat or plump girl who would actually be pretty hot if she was skinnier? I was thinking that these seem to be girls that would be cool to get with if they are committed to losing the weight, because once they do, if you're the one who likes them when they were a little overweight, then they'd be great relationship material since these girls are generally humble and slightly insecure (which means that they will at least be loyal to you emotionally).

I don't know, just a thought, because I've known a few girls who would be knockouts if they were just a little thinner. I'm not talking about obese women who will almost never be skinny since it's a genetic thing. I'm talking just plump enough so they are self-conscious and don't get many guys hanging off of them.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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As a personal trainer I see potential in everyone. I had an ex a few years ago that I dated (and cheated on) for 8 years. She was heavy when I started and she blew up after I put her on a diet....she became homecoming queen at her school...yeah she didn't tell me she was that young.... I was 33 I think and she was 18 and still in school....I thought she was 23 when I met her...

Anyways this girl lost all her weight and got implants and crap and became a make up artist/estitician and now works for the hottest make up line...M.A.C.

It's kinda cool to take a chubbet with potential and mold them into perfection....then watch fools heads turn.

So yeah hit on the slightly plumb one with a beautiful face and take her out running and exercising and watch her ass just get finer....look at what J-Ho or J.lo did...remember her when she was of "In Living Color" as chunky as fu*ck? We used to laugh at the fat girl who was outdancing all those skinny chicks... Back when she was just called...oh hey ho...instead of j-lo-popular commedian said that.
 

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Originally posted by becker
I was thinking that these seem to be girls that would be cool to get with if they are committed to losing the weight, because once they do, if you're the one who likes them when they were a little overweight, then they'd be great relationship material since these girls are generally humble and slightly insecure (which means that they will at least be loyal to you emotionally).

It NEVER works out that way. i have seen quite a few fat chiks turn into hotties and guess what? When they get hot, all that anger/resentment boils to the surface, and they become quite the slutty little attention whors.

All of the sudden they bust out thinking there all this and that, and if they were dating anyone, they will quickly lose IL and look to date up a more attractive male. There personalities usually change for the worse and they because they never had much attention from men before, they become attention whors to make up for all the lost time.
 
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Re: Re: Fat girls with potential

Originally posted by myfriendblu
It NEVER works out that way. i have seen quite a few fat chiks turn into hotties and guess what? When they get hot, all that anger/resentment boils to the surface, and they become quite the slutty little attention whors.

All of the sudden they bust out thinking there all this and that, and if they were dating anyone, they will quickly lose IL and look to date up a more attractive male. There personalities usually change for the worse and they because they never had much attention from men before, they become attention whors to make up for all the lost time.

Yeah, that could be true...that is why you wanna be on top of your game and handle that biatch! That is why I do what I do to there head's...they may blow up in looks but I will be there to keep their heads from going out into orbit. Like I did with my ex:
Hell when we broke up I left her in the care of a trained psychologist to repair some of the damage...*note*
 

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Oh God no, i would never date an overweight chick AGAIN. My ex-wife had weight issues, and they are VERY deep-seated emotional issues. It's not just, "oh, i like cake, i'm going to have a couple pieces..." It's trying to fix emotional problems with food, when you need to fix emotional problems with emotional help.

In my honest opinion, people only get bigger as they get older. If a chick can't stay thin, or ever AVERAGE in her 20's, how can she expect to stay thin when she's not as active in her late 20's and beyond, when her metabolism has slowed down???

Call me superficial, but i would rather NOT date, than date a chunky woman again. I could not believe the stress i went through dealing with a chunky woman, whose issues were insecurity, low self esteem, laziness, etc.

And i would NEVER take the word of another person that says, "oh, i will try and lose weight." And besides, you can't control or change another person, so i would LOVE to hear the conversation you have with the chunky chick about trying to get her to lose weight: "Honey... i think you would look better if you slimmed down. I will help you if you want..."

yeah right, that ain't gonna fly. You've just basically insulted her to her face. Any strong, secure chick would say, "If you don't like me the way i am, then get the F**K out of my life!!!"

Just my opinions, and i know my opinions on this subject are weird, but i speak from experience, and i NEVER EVER NEVER want to be in a relationship with an overweight chick again.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Re: Re: Fat girls with potential

Originally posted by myfriendblu
It NEVER works out that way. i have seen quite a few fat chiks turn into hotties and guess what? When they get hot, all that anger/resentment boils to the surface, and they become quite the slutty little attention whors.

All of the sudden they bust out thinking there all this and that, and if they were dating anyone, they will quickly lose IL and look to date up a more attractive male. There personalities usually change for the worse and they because they never had much attention from men before, they become attention whors to make up for all the lost time.
I know that this is a very possible scenario too, but I think the key to doing anything like this is to make sure you treat this girl with respect and don't be a total prick to her when she's overweight, then totally change your behavior when she's thin. People could see right through that.

I think that it also can't be a situation where you get with the girl, then tell her to lose weight. The relationship has to start BEFORE anything happens between you two. I equate this to the same as famous athletes. If you were their friends when they were nobodys, and remained their friends through thick and thin, then they will respect you when they are famous and not totally diss you. However, when you come in after they're famous and try to be all buddy-buddy when you were a total d*ck to them when they were not famous, forget it.
 

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I have a friend who was teased mercilessly when she was a kid and in high school for being overweight. Ive been her friend for since first year in university (just friends). In the past five years, shes lost A LOT of weigh....now she looks absolutely amazing. The thing is, she still suffers a bit from low self esteem, but shes slowly getting over it. I can see how she could have become an attention wh0re since, but she hasnt....shes one of the funniest, nicest girls I know. Humble and smart (grad student) as well. Plus, shes the only girl who has never ditched or temporarily gone crazy and ignored me as a friend after she gets a boyfriend. THE ONLY ONE. On the other hand, I know this really ugly girl who lost lots of weight, and got real nasty after that. The thing is, she was still ugly but still thought she was all that.....um..no..the guys are going out with you because you freakin put out.

Pancho
 

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Depends on if I think there is a good reason she put the weight on. I know a lot of seriously hot women who put on 15-20 pounds during grad school or while working towards a CPA. They work, go to school in the evening, come home starved and eat the wrong things just before bed because there is no time to prepare a proper meal. It's a recipe for rapid weight gain. These aren't shrinking violets, they are aggressive women with a strong self image. As soon as they complete their studies, they drop the weight fast and keep it off. Professional women recognize the importance of their appearance to their career. So long as you are OK with being second to their career, go for it.

If she has an extra 20 pounds because she is inherently lazy and has psychological issues that she medicates with carbs, it ain't gonna get better. She is going to continue to blow up a like a balloon and become a sterotypical fat angry broad. Run like hell from these.
 

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but really why waste time to turn potentially hot fat chicks into skinny hot chicks, when u could just go for the beautiful ladies to begin with, i mean life is short enough, and all i need is a fat girl, quitting her diet, to have some krispy cream, after i work so hard, to get her fat ass, to a pretty one. one more thing, turn a fat girl into a skinny girl, she will have gross skin, like wrinkily and stuff, but if thats ur bag, then stand up in a bar and shout, "FAT WOMEN, COME TO ME!!" peace:D
 

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That's another thing I thought about as well, but the key here is that you're looking for good women. Hot ones are usually the ones with some attitude, and some are not genuine. Sure, there are some good ones, but you're looking at slim pickin's, so I guess this is just a thought. Not the easy route, but a route nevertheless. Reason I say this too is because I've seen plump girls with great personalities and if they were thinner, there would be guys all over them.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Anything is possible. A lot of people are fat because they are ignorant about the science of diet. Bodybuilders have to cut fat on a schedule, so there is a lot of good science on how to do it. (It doesn't involve any of that mass market anti-fat pill bogus crap, either.)

But you gotta also look at the girl's attitude. Is she a quitter? Is she too comfortable in her situation? Is she really motivated to change given the know how? Nobody likes to be too fat, but it is no picnic going on a diet either.

And she'll have to watch what she eats for life! (Or as long as you are around.) :)

So if she's the motivated type, and has potential (if she's too big her skin might not tighten up even if she loses fat) then you might have a chance at success.

Don't be a loser, though, cuz when she gets hot, she might dump you for the hunk down the street. :)
 

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The stock market is based on speculation. Look at tech stocks. They were a flash in the pan. Compare those stocks with those that are withstanding. They may dip but they have an establish track record and they rebound. Give me a woman that stays 'generally' fit all of her life and I'm happy. A $10/10lb fluctuation is easier to rebound from than a $100/100lb fluctuation.
 

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interesting...

I dont mind girls that are only slightly overweight.. after all I like something to hold on to! but I know plenty that would be hot if they lost the puppy fat as it were.. I don't think you should ever go out with someone though if you weren't happy with them in the first place..

also.. for the girls that are only slightly overweight sometimes they have no esteem/neediness issues at all, in fact one girl I know (who is a little chubby) is one of the most confident self assured people I've ever met..
 

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Originally posted by Cocoon
but really why waste time to turn potentially hot fat chicks into skinny hot chicks, when u could just go for the beautiful ladies to begin
NICE reply. That about sums it up. genious :D
 

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Usually overweight girls are overweight for a reason.

No self control when it comes to food. A lazy ass who never likes to get any exercise. Generally a low motivated being, who is generally not too keen on life itself. Its not just the weight problem, its also a mental problem.

I did think at first that I could change ppls way, but now I feel being associated with such people only drags me down with them.
 

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Originally posted by Ar7
Usually overweight girls are overweight for a reason.

No self control when it comes to food. A lazy ass who never likes to get any exercise. Generally a low motivated being, who is generally not too keen on life itself. Its not just the weight problem, its also a mental problem.
Possibly. But I noticed fat girls usually have fat moms. They inherited their parents' slower metabolism, and learned their eating habits. An unfortunate combination.
 

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There is actually a fat girl I'd like to fvck. Saw her fat ass online and I dunno why something clicked. For some reason I also got the feeling I could get whatever I wanted from her but I dunno if that's for real or not.

But there's no way in hell I'm actually taking her out. Also, my experience online is it's a waste of time and money so I'm not gonna pay to play here, either. But for the record, some fat chicks are at least highly fvckable.

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Went on another archaeological dig for this old post. Found it next to the Tyrannosaurus Rex bones.

Anyways, there is this one girl, a receptionist at a car dealership where I get my car serviced who is HOT. I mean, her face looks EXACTLY like Nikki Cox (if you don't know who she is, better do a search, because Nikki is one of the hottest women on this planet). This girl's face is absolutely gorgeous, and when I say identical, I mean, she looks like Nikki's twin sister.

However, from her waist down, she has a big caboose, a'la J-Lo, and I'm not too into that body type. I like more petite women, who are more tight, but I have to say, this girl is one of those girls that if she ever lost the caboose, she would have guys hanging off her arms. I think she already gets hit on a lot being the way she is right now. It just brings forth the question again of whether I should ask her out. I spoke to her when I went to pick up my car, but was held back a little because of the above. Good eye contact, and had her laughing, so it was pretty good.

Don't know what I should do, take a risk, but possibly end up with a girl with some serious booty, or just fuggedaboutit.
 

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Originally posted by becker
Went on another archaeological dig for this old post. Found it next to the Tyrannosaurus Rex bones.

Anyways, there is this one girl, a receptionist at a car dealership where I get my car serviced who is HOT. I mean, her face looks EXACTLY like Nikki Cox (if you don't know who she is, better do a search, because Nikki is one of the hottest women on this planet). This girl's face is absolutely gorgeous, and when I say identical, I mean, she looks like Nikki's twin sister.

However, from her waist down, she has a big caboose, a'la J-Lo, and I'm not too into that body type. I like more petite women, who are more tight, but I have to say, this girl is one of those girls that if she ever lost the caboose, she would have guys hanging off her arms. I think she already gets hit on a lot being the way she is right now. It just brings forth the question again of whether I should ask her out. I spoke to her when I went to pick up my car, but was held back a little because of the above. Good eye contact, and had her laughing, so it was pretty good.

Don't know what I should do, take a risk, but possibly end up with a girl with some serious booty, or just fuggedaboutit.
I'll take her off oyur hands.
 
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jyeah, my ex was chunky until I met her and put her big ass on a diet...then she blew up...home coming queen and sh*t like that.
Became a M.A.C make up artist. She couldn't get to the bathroom with out heads trying to spit game at her fine ass.

***didn't realize this was the same post from before*****
 
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