"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Well guys I just did the stupidest thing ever.

I just met this chick in the coffee shop a few days ago.

I went there this afternoon, spent a few hours getting high with her, had lots of laughs. Later tonight I see her at the coffee shop again. She asks me to roll a J for her. I wonder what kind of ****-test is this, I ask her what she's gonna do, she says she's coming in a few minutes, and I agree. After a while she suddenly asks me: "What kind of girls do you like??", after thinking about 20 seconds I told her I like neat girls and that it really depends on the individual interaction. She told me where she lives. I told her I would walk a distance with her to her house. A few hours later when we leave she sees a guy with a car and said he could give her a ride. Then she approaches the dude, but me with my ***** ass get fvckin weirded out. She's black and the dude was black, I sorta figured they knew each other, since I am not even living in the neighborhood long. So she asks the guy for a ride, I keep walking. Then she turns around and asks me if I want to come? I am like: "Nahh, I just live down the road".

Man this is the biggest fail in my recent Don Juaning history.

I am basically pretty goddamn ashamed of this. I played everything right. I had total rapport. The other dudes in the shop referred to me as soldier, and other dudes greet me when they leave, the rapport was so highh.... She saw the condoms I had with me... All my cash... It was ridiculous.

I feel so damn AFC man...

This is just the start of the summer. I only just met this girl this week. I had a golden opportunity, and I just blew it in the wind. And then I pissed into the wind.

Man oh man. I just threw away a free lay. From hero to zero. There are worse problems, but this is really a huge kink in my armor.

I hope some of you can learn from this mistake as well. I can still remember the sigh of amasement and disappointment as I told her "no I live really close".... Man I feel like my balls just shrunk an inch in diameter each.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Wait , so the problem was that you said no the ride ? or you failed to make sure that she walked to her apartment with you ?
but in a similar case I would've said to the chick "you asked me to walk with you , now you want to take a ride? come let's walk i'll tell you an interesting story" or some BS like that

Just trying to understand, what exactly would you have done differently ?
 

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mv.89 said:
Wait , so the problem was that you said no the ride ? or you failed to make sure that she walked to her apartment with you ?
but in a similar case I would've said to the chick "you asked me to walk with you , now you want to take a ride? come let's walk i'll tell you an interesting story" or some BS like that
I agree.
Just trying to understand, what exactly would you have done differently ?
Get in the car with her, go to her house, and fvck her missionary with a condom.
 

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I don't think it was bad game on your part per se (although read on). She blew you off because this guy broke her "DTF state." Sadly, it happens.

I believe you when you thought she was DTF. I think she originally WAS. But chicks have like ADD. They can be easily distracted and broken out of state while you are trying to bring them to the extraction (sex) location.

For example, you could meet a girl at a club, totally hit it off, and have her leave with you. But while walking to your car, she runs into an old friend, starts talking, and her mind "shifts gears." Suddenly she's not DTF anymore. You get lowered to friendzone too, just like her friend. Instead of wanting to go back to your place to do it doggie style, she wants you and her friend to go to the diner to eat pancakes at 3am.

Guys, when you pull a girl, if possible, try not to have her talk to anybody else on the way back to the b*ng location. Cut those conversations VERY short, take her hand, and keep walking. It isn't so much that another guy would AMOG you and steal her (although that is quite possible), but conversations with others can break her "DTF" state because it DISTRACTS HER. These people aren't even necessary trying to cawkblock you. They might even be genuine friends of hers, but it's STILL a DISTRACTION.

Seduction hangs on by a thin thread.....

During one of my vacation pulls, I was walking down the hotel hallway to my room wth this chick. I was literally 100 feet to the finish line. Some random dude in the hallway goes, "Hey, where are you two from?" Immediately, my spider sense went into high alert. I must NOT let this girl get into a conversation with this guy. At best he'll distract her and I'll get nothing, and at worst, he'll AMOG me and try to steal her. I was polite, friendly, but SHORT with him. I said, "Connecticut and New York. Have a good night man." I took her hand, and we kept walking. She was moaning in my room minutes later.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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We don't know what would've happened if you got in the car. Maybe she would have b&nged you later. Maybe the distraction of her friend would have made her change her mind about sex. I'm guessing the latter, but we don't know.

But don't sweat it. It was a good try.
 

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yeah that was a weird situation, not sure what I'd have done either. However, if you'd really had a sealed deal she probably would have asked you what to do rather than jump in the car and suggest you come too.
 

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me with my ***** ass get fvckin weirded out.

It sounds like your fail was ability to handle your weed. When you get paranoid like that, you have to realize that it's the effects of the drug and not reality. Pot is the opposite of alcohol in regard to its influence on how you perceive your own mistakes. That's why drunk drivers kill people and stoned drivers drive like senior citizens.
 

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Lol drugs.

More specifically, lol drugs and women.

There is a very real sweet spot to hit with any substance where it can potentially improve your game, sounds like you overstepped it.

The best thing you can do is find the things in life that give you these sweet spots, good feelings, and find different ways to replicate the good feelings without the negative effects.
 

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Zarky said:
yeah that was a weird situation, not sure what I'd have done either. However, if you'd really had a sealed deal she probably would have asked you what to do rather than jump in the car and suggest you come too.
TBH I think I did seal the deal.

@ Bible Belt & rythmic
Maybe it was the weed. I smoked 2 puffs of Amnesia Haze, while I usually just smoke hash. I felt perfectly fit, but u never know. I honestly don't blame it on the weed but myself. The fact I reacted like this just is due to inexperience. I could have known that when she asked: "want to come with?", that she meant to her house.

After writing the post I did a little reading in The Art of War by Sun Tzu. The book really hit the nail on the head.

Chapter VIII. Variation in Tactics.
"6. So, the student of war who is unversed in the art of war of varying his plans, even though he be acquainted the Five Advantages, will fail to make the best use of his men."
"12. There are five dangerous faults which may affect a general:
(1) Recklessness, which leads to destruction;
(2) cowardice, which leads to capture;
(3) a hasty tempter, which can be provoked by insults;
(4) a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame;
(5) over-solicitude for his men, which exposes him to worry and trouble."

"13. These are the five besetting sins of a general, ruinous to the conduct of war."

Well I can find myself feeling guilty of 1 through 5.

I guess - what I learned is this - follow your women close-by. Watch them closely. Next time some chick approaches a car I will be sticking a little bit closer to her. I certainly won't be making that mistake again.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Clearly, if you two could walk to her house, she didn't need a car ride to go a few hundred more feet. She needed money. He has a car and you're on foot. He has more money than you (or more access to the things money buys: same difference).

I hardly think it's some kind of "DJ pull" or "fail" to go slumming and pick up ghetto hookers with "free" drugs. (For sure, you're slumming. If summer just started for you, your university is on the quarter system, and some druggie isn't your peer.) Next time, "give away" puffs on the crack pipe. The local street characters will be lining up around the block to svck your d1ck.
 

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Down Low said:
Clearly, if you two could walk to her house, she didn't need a car ride to go a few hundred more feet. She needed money. He has a car and you're on foot. He has more money than you (or more access to the things money buys: same difference).

I hardly think it's some kind of "DJ pull" or "fail" to go slumming and pick up ghetto hookers with "free" drugs. (For sure, you're slumming. If summer just started for you, your university is on the quarter system, and some druggie isn't your peer.) Next time, "give away" puffs on the crack pipe. The local street characters will be lining up around the block to svck your d1ck.
Pick up ghetto hookers with free drugs? I didn't have any drugs in my pockets as we left the coffee shop. If we were gonna smoke anything it would have been her weed.

Man you are one arrogant fvck. "some druggie isn't your peer". A lot of accomplished people smoke weed you know.

In the end it was just a misunderstanding which will never happen again. It was just too out of the blue for me.
 

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Chamber36 said:
A few hours later when we leave she sees a guy with a car and said he could give her a ride. Then she approaches the dude, but me with my ***** ass get fvckin weirded out. She's black and the dude was black, I sorta figured they knew each other, since I am not even living in the neighborhood long. So she asks the guy for a ride, I keep walking. Then she turns around and asks me if I want to come? I am like: "Nahh, I just live down the road".
I'd be weirded out too...it sure sounds like you were getting set up for a mugging. If you're going to chase 'ghetto hookers' (to use Down Low's words), you need to get yourself some street smarts. Well, at least your instincts are in the right place.
 
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I believe you when you thought she was DTF. I think she originally WAS. But chicks have like ADD. They can be easily distracted and broken out of state while you are trying to bring them to the extraction (sex) location.
Very true.

Tip cab drivers well and get their cell number. Even going from text to taxi can be Saving Private Ryan.
 

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If the dude would have robbed me he would have gotten about a grand in dollars. But I am a militant dude and I know how to fight. Plus I have no fear for black people thus I would not incite a robbery.

And she's not a ghetto hooker, she's just some rascal chick. I would have gotten STRAIGHT into the car if I really knew it was an invitation to her place instead of just a ride home. That's what makes it so AFC - I didn't even realise it was an invitation and that she was already DTF. I didn't know she was DTF. The offer came out of the blue for me. Was just planning on walking straight home.

To be honest it briefly crossed my mind while we were chillin that I should get an F-close and not a kiss-close, I changed my body language thus, and decided not to worry about it. That's all the thought I really put into my logistics. The ride was fun but I failed to look into the future.

I'm bound to meet her at the coffee shop again in the near future. Let's hope I can get her this hot again. I am not going to put my hopes up btw. Back to square 1.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chamber36 said:
TBH I think I did seal the deal.
If you didn't f*ck her you didn't seal the deal.

I didn't even realise it was an invitation and that she was already DTF
I'm still not sure why you're so sure that she would have f*cked you. It's all speculation until the penetration happens.

If the girl were that into f*cking you, when you rejected the ride she would have gotten out of the car and gone with you. The fact that she let you walk away says a great deal.
 

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Zarky said:
If you didn't f*ck her you didn't seal the deal.


I'm still not sure why you're so sure that she would have f*cked you. It's all speculation until the penetration happens.

If the girl were that into f*cking you, when you rejected the ride she would have gotten out of the car and gone with you. The fact that she let you walk away says a great deal.
I will agree with you that I didn't seal the deal.

But she did invite me to her place at 1am. We would have escalated, and probably to sex.
 

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If the dude would have robbed me he would have gotten about a grand in dollars. But I am a militant dude and I know how to fight. Plus I have no fear for black people thus I would not incite a robbery.
You are not very bright, are you? You don't get robbed because you are afraid of black people. You get robbed because the robber wants your money.

It's good that you know how to fight. Do you also know how to dodge bullets? :rolleyes:
 

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It's good that you know how to fight. Do you also know how to dodge bullets? :rolleyes:
Yes, I do.

I ran into her again today at the coffee shop at around the same time. Didn't really say much to her. I was chill, but I was in a different mood today than yesterday. Actually, we didn't even say bye to each other... Well she is a gangster girl so everything should be alright.
 

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Puṣṣy ain't that good that it's worth dying for. Hell not even worth getting shot or mugged for. Smartest thing you ever did. I wouldn't of gotten in that mudderfaka's car either, pft.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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