"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Post some stuff you have done that failed instead of working like you through.

Mine today:


approach the dancefloor, see two girls dancing with each other.

They are dancing some more..i'm waiting not paying too much attention, but they want it.

so they run right to me and ram into the railing..and start dancing.


I decide to test em:

"this is the "cool people" rail, to dance here you gotta know what you are doing

girl looks at me puzzled.

keeps looking

keeps looking.

asks "are you from Iowa?"

I'm like "no, think across the ocean"

her puzzled again..

"you dont have an accent"

"I do when im drinking more"

they both run off..




2 mins later i hear, "whats your name".. its the same voice.

i am not looking at her or responding.. she pokes me in my chest twice.

"whats your name"

i look at her and say "this stuff isn't free, $5 per touch, so you owe me $10"

puzzled again.. runs off to her friend. doesnt come back



fail.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Following_of_Me

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Text book seduction methods dont really work in practice lol. Just only stupid dumb sluts who dont know any better, or care for that matter.

If you want to get with woman, you have to actually have a personality of your own. Spitting Mystery's game will not help you.

On that note, the most recent failure of mine.

Got too drunk, attempted to hit on the sober chick. Hilarity supposedly ensued. I dont honestly remember it that well.
 

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Yea, the whole $5 thing is freaking pathetic. It doesn't work that well, and when it does, it only works when you built some rapport with the girls. Not just at the start.

Why did you screw this up so badly anyway? You had some attraction right there, no need to neg them so badly.
 

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SandHawk said:
Yea, the whole $5 thing is freaking pathetic. It doesn't work that well, and when it does, it only works when you built some rapport with the girls. Not just at the start.

Why did you screw this up so badly anyway? You had some attraction right there, no need to neg them so badly.


The $5 thing worked GREAT for me last time on a hot girl, but i was like with 5 chicks so may be she thought i was cool and hence it worked.


what i am thinking is the girls thought i was already cool and for me to neg them they just kinda freaked out.


live and learn.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"Cool people rail" and "$5 per touch"

Sounds like you walk around with a "pick up cheat sheet" in your pocket. Talk like real people, or just be quiet and start dancing with her.
 

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pick up sheet, really?

You want to know how long my sheet is? those two things i said and "you are a dork"

oh wee, don't get carried away by that mighty list of pick up tricks!



edit: these two were attnetion whoring, so i figured id let them come down a level.

what would you say?
 

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Amazing said:
pick up sheet, really?

You want to know how long my sheet is? those two things i said and "you are a dork"

oh wee, don't get carried away by that mighty list of pick up tricks!
Just saying, your lines sound like they came out of a can. That stuff might work if you built up like 5 minutes of rapport. But as an opening line? Not so much.

I definitely use negs and C&F. But I mean, "this is the cool people rail"...I hear that and I envision someone wearing Ed Hardy shirts and sunglasses in a nightclub.

I don't mean to break your balls. You're out there trying which is more than most people do. I'm just having some fun with it.
 

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In the club the music was too loud so i typed my opener into my cell phone and gave it to the target with a smile...





...She acted like she couldn't read. Fail
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I had drank way too much and was completely out of control. Made out with this girl and told her I'm going home and she should come with me. She says she wants to after one more shot each...

I absolutely cannot remember what happened in the next 30 minutes or so, then later her being extremely angry at me for something and refusing to talk to me anymore. I went home alone and still have no idea what happened.

Fail.
 

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In high school I flirted with a girl, walked away talking while looking at her, and then I walked into a wall in the middle off a sentence. If it was caught on camera, it would have been hilarious.
 

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Clowning around on the dancefloor, danced straight up to a 3 set, 2 hot 1 ugly, both hot girls immediately left.

Big fail.
 
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