"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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wutangfinancial said:
I agree with all those points. Your game only helps to get girls in your league; looks determine your league.
looks are easy to work on, clothes, hair, presentation make up most of your looks

the swagger follows when u feel like u look like da shyt
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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positivity_injection said:
what makes you think you deserve to have standards? are you a highly desirable guy?
that is basically advocating going for fatties no? we should all strive for what we want whether it is cute girls or the hotties. It only takes confidence to game any of them.

Sure we all know that social proof is important in winning the hotties but just because you don't have it I don't think you can say you don't "deserve them." This is like feminist speak. We shouldn't go into the mindset of "do I deserve her" but rather go out of the house everyday thinking "do they deserve us."
 

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If by highly desirable you mean muscular/jock/preppy no. I agree with you 100%. If you want to attract club looking girls, consistently anyway, you have to be their male counterpart. Why would some club girl want to be with some fat Everquest geek with pimples?

I consider myself a desirable guy for the girls I'm looking to attract. I'm tall (6'1''), thin, intelligent, clean-cut. I wear glasses by choice. I hate contacts, don't mind glasses, wouldn't wear contacts just to attract one more woman or two, that's a desperate AFC move, not a self-improvement technique. I look at myself, and look at a girl like her, and think "there's no reason I shouldn't be able to get her."

The problem is, a lot of guys on here are holding out for some Playboy Playmate or Victoria's Secret model and would have trouble even attracting Rosie O Donnell.
 

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positivity_injection said:
guys like that dont care what YOU think........they are pretty happy railing those hot girls that go for them

newsflash to you and anyone interested - hot club girls usually go for hot club guys when it comes to pure sexual attraction

its very likely that in England its a different look that the hot girls have, but i live in America so im keeping this all american for now........in America, hot girls like that love guys that look like that.........they love them for sex.......those guys are natural and themselves, thats who they are and thats who they like to be. You cannot hate someone just because they end up being successful with women, even if they do "look" like douchebags

remember, nerds need to call successful guys names to feel better about themselves.........dont do it L777 - i dont dress like them, but i know they get pvssy, so im not talkin shyt about them, you shouldnt either!
Whatever mate, anyone who wears a shirt like that, makes a gun gesture to the camera and has facial hair in the shape of a 'W' is a di.ckhead....I don't care if he f.ucks a different girl every day for the rest of his life - still a d.ickhead.

I'm young but I've learned that some things a re more important thatn sex. Being true to yourself and not becoming a clone of the next club rat prettyboy is one of them.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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krazyboy99 said:
the fact that people are hating on a thread like this that is full of nothing but good advice is both pathetic and ridiculous
Oh seriously pal its so not that, take your head out of your arse and see. I have friends that are better looking than both those guys and get better looking girls....and I don't "hate on" them.

This phrase is becoming overused and misused. Try and broaden your vocabulary.
 

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positivity_injection said:
no sugarcoating, this is all fact and fiction when it comes to what i have tried in my life when it comes to getting women......i know exactly what I am talking about here, and i hope people who need help learning seduction will get something outta this:




Fact: Being too proper, moral and polite will rarely get you laid, but will frequently get you friended

Fact: Being too C+F, too neg-hitty, too mysterious, too aloof will rarely get you laid, but will frequently get you ignored

Fact: Being sexual, looking your best physically, talking with wit and being brutally honest to yourself with what you want will usually get you laid, and rarely get you anything else




Fact: You will never find "the one" to happily settle down with if you expect her to be the first girl you ****

Fact: You WILL find the one if you stop giving a **** who you date, and just get out there and DATE DATE DATE, the more girls you see, the more you realize what you want from a woman

Fact: The longer you wait to start dating regularly, the harder it will be for you to overcome anxiety and all that bull**** (aka, much harder to start dating when you are 30 compared to when you are 20)




Fact: Most guys are AFC, which means if you try to mess around with a girl who has a bf/husband, there is always a chance you will end up on the news in a murder story (AFC's would kill for *****, thats the chump way to go, pvssy > a human life)

Fact: It is very difficult for a girl to spread and STD to a guy, thus if you **** lots of girls and just use a condom every time, then you are close to 100% safe........if you are scared of std's, then maybe you should lock yourself up in your house, because there is always a chance you will get into a car accident if you drive to the gym or to the store

Fact: DO NOT make your standards for women high if you think that a woman would not see you as high quality either.........and chances are if you are a virgin or inexperienced, then you arent high quality enough to land the hb8 in the first place

Fact: THE #1 WAY TO GET LAID FAST (if that is what you want), is a simple phrase......you tell a girl "u wanna come watch movies at my place?" - thats it, and if you dont know how to take it from there, then read up on your Gunwitch


Fact: If the first thought that goes through your head when you see a guy like in the links below with a hot girl is "he's a douchebag and she is a slut", then you need to look in the mirror, because that guy is ****ing the hot girls that you are wackin off too, while all YOU do is hate on those guys - hating guys who have sex with hot girls is the most obvious sign of a frustrated chump, so DONT DO THAT!

http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/uploaded_images/DB4144-751680.jpg
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/uploaded_images/DB4147-777244.jpg



there are more facts but i think ive typed enough for now

I like the way you post. No sweetness or bullsh1t. You just say what you want to say. Nice one.:up:
 

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positivity_injection said:
use logic for a sec.........if u wear a condom, then how will an std get INSIDE you?

aside from that, read shyt online, its all there how its highly unlikely for a guy to catch HIV from a girl..........besides HIV, tell me what std's will affect your life and make it worse?

Fact: It is very difficult for a girl to spread and STD to a guy, thus if you **** lots of girls and just use a condom every time, then you are close to 100% safe........if
Read what you posted. I asked you how is it very difficult for a girl to spread a STD? Notice how you state if you wear a condom youre safe AFTER you said its difficult for girls to spread STDs. Umm...chlamydia, syphillis, herpes, gonarrhea will all make your life worse. Im not trying to argue so you can refrain from the condescending aire you use.
 

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Fact: You WILL find the one if you stop giving a **** who you date, and just get out there and DATE DATE DATE, the more girls you see, the more you realize what you want from a woman
This is the most relevant to me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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krazyboy99 said:
and yes you do hate on them lol
I don't suppose you care, but "hate on" isn't a legitimate sentence construction, meaning it doesn't make sense. I'd suggest not poisoning your mind with any more hip-hop garbage, and learning to use the language properly.

As I already explained, I have friends that look better than these guys, so why would I hate them - I've never even met them - I was just commenting that they look like d.ickheads. I would just be amused if I saw someone like that in real life - I can promise you I wouldn't hate them.

As I already stated. I think the rest of the thread is spot on....especially the part about watching a movie....it works every time :D.
 

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This is one extravaganza of facts. I was going to quote a couple of them, but there are far too many good points to quote. I can't choose any single one I like specifically.

Fact: You will never find "the one" to happily settle down with if you expect her to be the first girl you ****

Fact: You WILL find the one if you stop giving a **** who you date, and just get out there and DATE DATE DATE, the more girls you see, the more you realize what you want from a woman

Fact: The longer you wait to start dating regularly, the harder it will be for you to overcome anxiety and all that bull**** (aka, much harder to start dating when you are 30 compared to when you are 20)
Those are my favorites though.
 

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positivity_injection said:
Fact: It is very difficult for a girl to spread and STD to a guy, thus if you **** lots of girls and just use a condom every time, then you are close to 100% safe........if you are scared of std's, then maybe you should lock yourself up in your house, because there is always a chance you will get into a car accident if you drive to the gym or to the store
so where did all the guys with STDs get them from? other guys? monkeys?

did you know that using a condom will not protect you from a number of STDs?

Did you know that using your judgement before fvcking a girl is your best protection (together with condoms)?

your chances of getting an std from a nasty slvt you bang (with a condom) are a bit higher than getting in a car accident
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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L777 said:
As I already stated. I think the rest of the thread is spot on....especially the part about watching a movie....it works every time :D.

i make sure to have very good movies at my place at all times ;)

blind date Dates From Hell(the tv series) dvd's are also my godsend, because it gives you, the don juan, a chance to make fun of all the AFCs in the show, and get the girl laughing (they always laugh)
 
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drak_ool said:
so where did all the guys with STDs get them from? other guys? monkeys?

did you know that using a condom will not protect you from a number of STDs?

Did you know that using your judgement before fvcking a girl is your best protection (together with condoms)?

your chances of getting an std from a nasty slvt you bang (with a condom) are a bit higher than getting in a car accident

most std's are transfered through condomless sex, HIV is the only deadly one, the rest may be a slight nuisance but always go away quickly. Society has done a good job of scaring you to be sexually active, since now you think that EVERY girl that wants to have sex with you is a nasty slvt - do tell, what is a nasty slvt? cuz if u have a sister, and i was able to seduce her in 3 hours and ****ed her the same night i met her, will that make HER, your sister, a nasty slvt?

STOP BEING A HATER, MOST GIRLS ARE NOT NASTY SLVTS, but geeks like to say that girls are slutty and all that, to make themselves feel better about never getting any

yea?
 

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Great post.

positivity_injection said:
what makes you think you deserve to have standards? are you a highly desirable guy?
THIS ONE.

Jesus christ, so many of your are missing the simple, simple point to this sort of statement.

Are you a desirable, worthy guy, or are you some idiot looking to get something for nothing?

This is why we're here, improving ourselves, with a focus on success with women.

I'll say this bluntly, but that WILL NOT happen if you're not willing to put in the work to improve yourself. If you're looking for shortcuts and to get what you want with as little work or effort as possible, then sorry, but you're on a dead end road there, not gonna happen.

Neither I nor anyone else here, as far as i can interpret, are saying 'go for 4/5/6's, and give up trying to get 8+'s', we're saying get YOURSELF to the level of an 8+, or you're gonna have very little luck.

Looks are something you can do little about, but their impact isn't too big in the big picture. Your LOOK is something you can change, you can dress better, become successful, and attractive (which isn't all looks, as we know.)

If you're a pasty-faced overweight, cynical, whining tool in a basement whining about how you don't get girls or never succeed, take a step back, and see if even you would take a second glance at yourself without a million 'if..." or 'but...." statements tossed in.

As much as I don't want to jump in on the virgin vs. not debate, there is a very clear difference between the two, and it's a decent idea to take advice out here with a grain of salt, otherwise it nearly is the blind leading the blind. Approach/etc. advice, sure, but to pick up girls to get laid/etc., I wouldn't take from a keyboard jockey.
 

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positivity_injection said:
most std's are transfered through condomless sex, HIV is the only deadly one, the rest may be a slight nuisance but always go away quickly. Society has done a good job of scaring you to be sexually active, since now you think that EVERY girl that wants to have sex with you is a nasty slvt - do tell, what is a nasty slvt? cuz if u have a sister, and i was able to seduce her in 3 hours and ****ed her the same night i met her, will that make HER, your sister, a nasty slvt?

STOP BEING A HATER, MOST GIRLS ARE NOT NASTY SLVTS, but geeks like to say that girls are slutty and all that, to make themselves feel better about never getting any

yea?
Yea! thank you for opening my eyes to my own geekiness. Now can you help me get some?

Have you heard of herpes, you dumb moron? I raised some valid points in my response to your post and you didn't even take the time to attack those, instead you attack me, my DJ skills (and my sister)! how mature of you...

Even though i agree with some of the things you said, I still think it s very immature of you to take STDs lightly. My original point was: just because you wear a condom doesn't mean you can't get STDs. Using your judgment and staying away from slvts (while still using condoms when having sex) is more helpful in staying clean.

I didn't stay all girls are nasty slvts, I said stay away from nasty slvts. Is the difference in wording too subtle for you to grasp?
 

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positivity_injection said:
that is hater virgin talk, get out of this thread unless you are ready to learn
I agree with the guy totally. Those women in the OPs pictures are attractive but they don't appeal to me either. Usually when they look like their entire life revolves around looking like barbie it does.

Usually the barbie clones are boring idiots that are hardly worth tolerating for a one nighter. I don't know if thats the other guys reason for saying they arnt his type but it's mine.

I'm not a hater or anything but I agree that those women from the pictures are not everyones definition of high quality. I'm not saying I wouldn't talk to them but they are probably just as annoying as they look.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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