"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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F from the first date how do you start it

evan12

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all my first dates these days are in cafes due to the girls I am seeing are completely strangers (from Online dating sites ) and I cant take them to less secure places because they refuse ,

How do you escalate with a girl when you are in a public cafe to the level of taking her out of cafe and F her , after holding her hands I cant do any extra action because that will look creepy ( at least that what I think ) .
I rarely seeing couples making out in a cafe .

so any experience to share ?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You do it over a few dates. Patience is key. You can't win a game of chess in one move.
 

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In line with this,
say you get a girl out for coffee, and you decide to keep the date no longer than 30-45 minutes. Assuming it goes well and there is some physical contact, how do you kiss her at the end? Walk her to her car?

Seems like you could not kiss her and make her want it more, or you could kiss her because you ****ing want to.

Furthermore, is it a good idea to set up a second meeting in person when you're getting coffee?
 

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unfortunately there is no second date with these women , all of them assume I am white(they cant tell from my profile pic ) , and when they come and discover I am immigrant , they keep themselves polite and don't leave instantly but then never come to second date .
I tried to be honest and tell in my profile I am not white, but then no date comes , at least now I am getting some dates and some fun :)
 

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I would put less focus on getting into their pants and more focus in getting into their minds.

Perhaps it is this and not your skin colour that is not getting you your second dates? Skin colour has never been a problem for me.

Although I have to say if a woman led me to believe she was white and then turned out to be other than white I would probably walk out on her too. Not because of her skin colour but because of the state of her mind. I would have to assume she was crazy or something to expect me not to notice.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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1) Make the date at a bar/lounge instead.

2) If not, choose a cafe that has a good place for walking nearby.

3) Either take the coffee to go, or after a bit of conversation, suggest you go walking to said place.

4) Walk, flirt, kino, etc.

5) Take it from there
 

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3) Either take the coffee to go, or after a bit of conversation, suggest you go walking to said place.
sound good idea , I ll try to walk with her next time :)
Perhaps it is this and not your skin colour that is not getting you your second dates?
it is not about a skin color , it is about status , a lot of Canadian women like link immigrant = poor , cant show him to her family
white = decent job , rich , etc
 

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evan12 said:
it is not about a skin color , it is about status , a lot of Canadian women like link immigrant = poor , cant show him to her family
white = decent job , rich , etc
Hmm. Is this about how Canadian women see you or about how you see you???

Who cares how women link skin colour? It's how you link it, is what's important.

Are you ashamed of your skin colour? If so, you need to address this with the utmost urgency.
 

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Are you ashamed of your skin colour? If so, you need to address this with the utmost urgency.
nop , what I am saying it is not about skin colour it is about status .
 

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Keep in mind that your choice of location is very important for a first date. Since your goal is to get to know each other more, the cinema should never be among your options. It is impossible to start and sustain a conversation in such a place where you have to spend most of your time in silence. Consider taking your date out for a nice dinner, and choose a location that has a comfortable ambience. Moreover, make sure it is somewhere that is not too pricey, as you would not want to end up paying a crippling bill.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The key is just being aggressive and having the mindset that "I take what I want".

They key to that is not caring about the chick one bit, nor caring about what happens in the interaction. You have to be impervious to embarrassment.

I'm convinced that's what prevents guys from making the move, they're afraid of being embarrassed, so you really have to cut out any care about what that particular chick thinks about you and just do what you want to do, what you NEED to do.
 
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