"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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StoneCold

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olrite people

I was sitting next to a blonde Lady on the bus

she kept looking out the window or straight so i couldnt catch her eyes

To start a convo with her i had to catch her eyes right?

Do u really have to catch a girls eye b4 starting the convo?

what i did then was i pretended to sneeze in a funny way which made her laugh and we talked

so to start a convo do u have to make eye contact first?
chow :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I don't think so, but you do have to make your presence known.

Not in a bad way, though...
 

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i have the same question as StoneCold, but i want more responses.

the thing is, as i walk on campus, i see a lot of cute hbs sitting alone. let me say that i am a fan of the gwm in the bible, and it recommends approaching stationary women who are alone. in all my life, i don't think i've seen so many cute girls sitting by themselves as i see here. (on a relevant note, just wanted to say that i was recently reading a post on a yahoo message board regarding how california has beautiful women, and the guy said that usually where there are a lot of hbs there are also a lot of homos. not sure if that's true, but around this school i have yet to see any pda, and maybe once a month i see a girl and guy holding hands or something - and it's usually the same ones, lol. in a way, whether it's a bunch of bs or has some validity, i've found this is a good place to be a dj-in-progress)

back to my question, most of these girls i see by themselves i assume are shy. you can sort of tell they are the quiet type anyway. i'm not afraid of approaching, i just don't want to startle them or come across as too agressive. but how do you make ec when you are walking by and they have their heads buried in some hw or some book? i know i have to get ec in some way. sorry McEwan, but you're just plain wrong...i've tried approaching these girls without ec, and it comes across as awkward. i'm relaxed, but i can tell they're tense, like, "you surprised me, where did you come from?" written across their foreheads.

i just don't want to let so many great opportunities slip past me.

i've thought of dropping something around the vicinity, and then as i pick it up try to notice what they're reading...but i want to feel natural/relaxed, and to me that would be fake and staged?

any tips from the pros is much appreciated.
 

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It depends on the response of the eye contact.
 

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It depends on the response of the eye contact.
what do you mean by that? besides, i wasn't asking about the response of eye contact, i was asking about how to go about creating that eye contact when the girl is busy doing something, and she's shy, and i don't want to startle her.

my post probably got overlooked. i didn't want to start a new thread and be like all the other people who haven't yet discovered the search button. i wasn't responding to StoneCold, i wanted to use the existing thread to ask a question.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DeathDealer

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Eye contact usually means nothing. Stop reading too much into the DJ BS. However, LACK of eye contact is something else.
 

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Eye contact usually means nothing....However, LACK of eye contact is something else.
is everyone here being vague on purpose? what is that supposed to mean? true, eye contact in itself is not supposed to be a magical sign. duh. i wasn't trying to 'read' any signs. i want to initiate eye contact by getting the chick's attention. obviously you didn't read what i wrote. screw it (and screw you posters who don't give clear answers trying to sound like you're all knowledgable when you probably don't know sh|t; man, you're response contradicts itself) i'll go figure it out on my own.

Stop reading too much into the DJ BS.
first of all, it's not bs. second, as i mentioned in my first post on this thread that i favor gwm article in the djb (and if you'd read the djb you'd probably know what gwm stands for). it's actually probably the only article that doesn't promote "tricks" and "techniques" and encourages you to be yourself, be natural, a man. i don't know what inclined you to call it "DJ BS." perhaps you haven't read much of it anyway.
 
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