"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Exploring options when together for 12 years?

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There's this woman I met, never married, no kids...age 40...and has been with the same man for 12 years. The reason they never married was because "it's complicated" and I asked her if she had ever considered exploring her options.

She said yes she has, but...that's something she'd like to talk about in person...not online. I asked her if I'd be okay if we could meet up, and she said, "Sure, whenever a group event is available that she can go to or wherever she is set up at work, I can come see her, but since I'm involved with someone and not looking...I'd prefer to keep it just like that."

Is there ever snagging a woman away from a stale relationship that has lasted THAT long? (12 years)

Not that I'm recommending cheating or anything, but I've heard stories currently married men had stolen their future wives from boyfriends..and it worked.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No.

You show interest and she will stay with him. You're not the first person who has caught her eye if she has been unhappily with him for 12 years.

Read "What to do if she has a bf" at the top of the forum page. Its good info. Make your intentions know to her and then be prepared to walk. At that point she can either start to follow you and get out of the relationship of stay miserable. Either way you shouldnt care because she is in fact with someone.

Easy fix- go find someone single.
 
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